With Bhūmija · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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and a caseṬhānañca
indeedkho
thisetaṁ
know·isvijjati
thatyaṁ
the Blessed Onebhagavā
thusevaṁ
would explainbyākareyyā’ti.
if‘Sace
of the masterbhoto
of Bhūmijabhūmijassa
teachersatthā
thus·teachingevaṁvādī
proclaiming thusevamakkhāyī,
certainlyaddhā
of the masterbhoto
of Bhūmijabhūmijassa
teachersatthā
all + justsabbesaṁyeva
various·ascetic·brahminsputhusamaṇabrāhmaṇānaṁ
on the headmuddhānaṁ
I thinkmaññe
on·strikeāhacca
standstiṭṭhatī’ti.
could I‘Kaccāhaṁ,
venerable sirbhante,
thusevaṁ
being askedpuṭṭho
thusevaṁ
ex-·do·answeringbyākaramāno
said·speakingvuttavādī
andceva
of the Blessed Onebhagavato
I amhomi,
notna
andca
the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ
un-·truthabhūtena
I misrepresentabbhācikkhāmi,
of the teachingdhammassa
and in line withcānudhammaṁ
I explainbyākaromi,
notna
andca
anykoci
legitimate·groundssahadhammiko
rebuttal or criticismvādānuvādo
worthy of censuregārayhaṁ
a caseṭhānaṁ
comes toāgacchatī’”ti?
indeed“Taggha youtvaṁ, Bhūmijabhūmija, thusevaṁ askedpuṭṭho thusevaṁ answeringbyākaramāno said·speakervuttavādī and indeedceva of meme you arehosi, notna andca memaṁ with untruthabhūtena you misrepresentabbhācikkhasi, of the teachingdhammassa and in line with the teachingcānudhammaṁ you explainbyākarosi, notna andca anykoci legitimatesahadhammiko grounds for rebuttalvādānuvādo censurablegārayhaṁ groundṭhānaṁ comes toāgacchati.
whoeverYe
indeedhi
anykeci,
Bhūmijabhūmija,
asceticssamaṇā
orvā
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
orvā
wrong·viewmicchādiṭṭhino
wrong·purposemicchāsaṅkappā
wrong·speechmicchāvācā
wrong·actionmicchākammantā
wrong·livelihoodmicchāājīvā
wrong·effortmicchāvāyāmā
wrong·mindfulnessmicchāsatī
wrong·immersionmicchāsamādhino
theyte
even with wishāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
spiritual·lifebrahmacariyaṁ
they leadcaranti,
unableabhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
to the attainmentadhigamāya;
even without wishanāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
spiritual·lifebrahmacariyaṁ
they leadcaranti,
unableabhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
to the attainmentadhigamāya;
with wish andāsañca
even without wishanāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
spiritual·lifebrahmacariyaṁ
they leadcaranti,
unableabhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
to the attainmentadhigamāya;
neither wishnevāsaṁ
nor even without wishnānāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
spiritual·lifebrahmacariyaṁ
they leadcaranti,
unableabhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
to the attainmentadhigamāya.
thatTaṁ
of whatkissa
reason?hetu?
irrationalAyoni
this ishesā,
Bhūmija,bhūmija,
of the fruitphalassa
to the attainmentadhigamāya.
just asSeyyathāpi,
Bhūmijabhūmija,
a personpuriso
needing oiltelatthiko
oil·seekingtelagavesī
oil·searchtelapariyesanaṁ
wanderingcaramāno
sandvālikaṁ
into a bucketdoṇiyā
toward·scatterākiritvā
with waterudakena
sprinkling little by littleparipphosakaṁ
sprinkling little by littleparipphosakaṁ
might presspīḷeyya.
if making a wishĀsañcepi
having madekaritvā
sandvālikaṁ
into a bucketdoṇiyā
toward·scatterākiritvā
with waterudakena
sprinkling little by littleparipphosakaṁ
sprinkling little by littleparipphosakaṁ
might presspīḷeyya,
unableabhabbo
of oiltelassa
for extractionadhigamāya;
if not making a wishanāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
sandvālikaṁ
into a bucketdoṇiyā
toward·scatterākiritvā
with waterudakena
sprinkling little by littleparipphosakaṁ
sprinkling little by littleparipphosakaṁ
might presspīḷeyya,
unableabhabbo
of oiltelassa
for extractionadhigamāya;
and if making a wishāsañca
and if not making a wishanāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
sandvālikaṁ
into a bucketdoṇiyā
toward·scatterākiritvā
with waterudakena
sprinkling little by littleparipphosakaṁ
sprinkling little by littleparipphosakaṁ
might presspīḷeyya,
unableabhabbo
of oiltelassa
for extractionadhigamāya;
neither a wishnevāsaṁ
nor not a wishnānāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
sandvālikaṁ
into a bucketdoṇiyā
toward·scatterākiritvā
with waterudakena
sprinkling little by littleparipphosakaṁ
sprinkling little by littleparipphosakaṁ
might presspīḷeyya,
unableabhabbo
of oiltelassa
for extractionadhigamāya.
thatTaṁ
of whatkissa
is the causehetu?
irrationalAyoni
for thishesā,
Bhūmijabhūmija,
of oiltelassa
for extractionadhigamāya.
just soEvameva
indeedkho,
Bhūmijabhūmija,
whateverye
indeedhi
anykeci
asceticssamaṇā
orvā
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
orvā
wrong viewmicchādiṭṭhino
wrong·purposemicchāsaṅkappā
wrong·speechmicchāvācā
wrong·actionmicchākammantā
wrong·livelihoodmicchāājīvā
wrong·effortmicchāvāyāmā
wrong·mindfulnessmicchāsatī
wrong immersionmicchāsamādhino
theyte
if making a wishāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
holy·conductbrahmacariyaṁ
they leadcaranti,
not·ableabhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
for attainmentadhigamāya;
without·wish·wish·if·evenanāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
holy·conductbrahmacariyaṁ
they livecaranti,
not·ableabhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
towards·goadhigamāya;
wish·wish·andāsañca
without·wish·wish·if·evenanāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
holy·conductbrahmacariyaṁ
they livecaranti,
not·ableabhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
towards·goadhigamāya;
neither with wishnevāsaṁ
nor even making it without wishnānāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
holy·conductbrahmacariyaṁ
they livecaranti,
not·ableabhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
towards·goadhigamāya.
thatTaṁ
of whatkissa
is the causehetu?
irrationalAyoni
indeed thishesā,
Bhūmijabhūmija,
of the fruitphalassa
towards·goadhigamāya.
just asSeyyathāpi,
Bhūmijabhūmija,
a personpuriso
in need of milkkhīratthiko
milk·seekingkhīragavesī
milk·searchkhīrapariyesanaṁ
wanderingcaramāno
a cowgāviṁ
young·calftaruṇavacchaṁ
by the hornvisāṇato
might pullāviñcheyya.
if with wishĀsañcepi
having madekaritvā
a cowgāviṁ
young·calftaruṇavacchaṁ
by the hornvisāṇato
might pullāviñcheyya,
not·ableabhabbo
of milkkhīrassa
to obtainadhigamāya;
if without wishanāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
…pe……pe…
wish andāsañca
if without wishanāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
…pe……pe…
if neither with wishnevāsaṁ
nor without wishnānāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
a cowgāviṁ
young·calftaruṇavacchaṁ
by the hornvisāṇato
might pullāviñcheyya,
not·ableabhabbo
of milkkhīrassa
to obtainadhigamāya.
thatTaṁ
whatkissa
reasonhetu?
not·right wayAyoni
indeed thishesā,
Bhūmijabhūmija,
of milkkhīrassa
to obtainadhigamāya.
so·justEvameva
indeedkho,
Bhūmijabhūmija,
whoeverye
indeedhi
anykeci
asceticssamaṇā
orvā
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
orvā
wrong·viewmicchādiṭṭhino
…pe……pe…
wrong·concentrationmicchāsamādhino
thosete
if with wishāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
holy·conductbrahmacariyaṁ
they livecaranti,
not·ableabhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
to obtainadhigamāya;
if without wishanāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
…pe……pe…
wish andāsañca
if without wishanāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
…pe……pe…
if neither with wishnevāsaṁ
nor without wishnānāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
holy·conductbrahmacariyaṁ
they livecaranti,
not·ableabhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
to obtainadhigamāya.
thatTaṁ
whatkissa
reasonhetu?
not·right wayAyoni
indeed thishesā,
Bhūmijabhūmija,
of the fruitphalassa
to obtainadhigamāya.
just asSeyyathāpi,
Bhūmijabhūmija,
a personpuriso
needing butternavanītatthiko
butter·seekingnavanītagavesī
butter·searchnavanītapariyesanaṁ
wanderingcaramāno
waterudakaṁ
into a potkalase
into·pourāsiñcitvā
with a stickmatthena
at·churnāviñcheyya.
wish·if·evenĀsañcepi
having madekaritvā
waterudakaṁ
into a potkalase
into·pourāsiñcitvā
with a stickmatthena
at·churnāviñcheyya,
unableabhabbo
of butternavanītassa
for producingadhigamāya;
not·wish·if·evenanāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
……pe…
wish·andāsañca
not·wish·if·evenanāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
……pe…
neither with a wishnevāsaṁ
not·not·wish·if·evennānāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
waterudakaṁ
into a potkalase
into·pourāsiñcitvā
with a stickmatthena
at·churnāviñcheyya,
unableabhabbo
of butternavanītassa
for producingadhigamāya.
thatTaṁ
of whatkissa
is the causehetu?
not·rationalAyoni
this indeed ishesā,
Bhūmijabhūmija,
of butternavanītassa
for producingadhigamāya.
thus·indeedEvameva
indeedkho,
Bhūmijabhūmija,
whoeverye
indeedhi
anykeci
asceticssamaṇā
orvā
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
orvā
of wrong viewmicchādiṭṭhino
……pe…
of wrong immersionmicchāsamādhino
theyte
wish·if·evenāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
holy·lifebrahmacariyaṁ
they livecaranti,
unableabhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
for winningadhigamāya;
not·wish·if·evenanāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
……pe…
wish·andāsañca
not·wish·if·evenanāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
……pe…
neither with a wishnevāsaṁ
not·not·wish·if·evennānāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
holy·lifebrahmacariyaṁ
they livecaranti,
unableabhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
for winningadhigamāya.
thatTaṁ
of whatkissa
is the causehetu?
not·rationalAyoni
this indeed ishesā,
Bhūmijabhūmija,
of the fruitphalassa
for winningadhigamāya.
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