With Bhūmija · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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Evaṁ
me
sutaṁ—
ekaṁ
samayaṁ
bhagavā
rājagahe
viharati
veḷuvane
kalandakanivāpe.
So I have heard. At one time the Buddha was staying near Rājagaha in the Bamboo Grove, the squirrels’ feeding ground.
Atha kho āyasmā bhūmijo pubbaṇhasamayaṁ nivāsetvā pattacīvaramādāya yena jayasenassa rājakumārassa nivesanaṁ tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā paññatte āsane nisīdi.
Then Venerable Bhūmija robed up in the morning and, taking his bowl and robe, went to the home of Prince Jayasena, where he sat down on the seat spread out.
Atha
kho
jayaseno
rājakumāro
yenāyasmā
bhūmijo
tenupasaṅkami;
upasaṅkamitvā
āyasmatā
bhūmijena
saddhiṁ
sammodi.
Sammodanīyaṁ
kathaṁ
sāraṇīyaṁ
vītisāretvā
ekamantaṁ
nisīdi.
Ekamantaṁ
nisinno
kho
jayaseno
rājakumāro
āyasmantaṁ
bhūmijaṁ
etadavoca:
“santi,
bho
bhūmija,
eke
samaṇabrāhmaṇā
evaṁvādino
evaṁdiṭṭhino:
‘āsañcepi
karitvā
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
abhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya;
anāsañcepi
karitvā
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
abhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya;
āsañca
anāsañcepi
karitvā
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
abhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya;
nevāsaṁ
nānāsañcepi
karitvā
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
abhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāyā’ti.
Idha
bhoto
bhūmijassa
satthā
kiṁvādī
kimakkhāyī”ti?
Then Jayasena approached and exchanged greetings with him. When the greetings and polite conversation were over, he sat down to one side and said to Bhūmija: “Worthy Bhūmija, there are some ascetics and brahmins who have this doctrine and view: ‘If you make a wish and lead the spiritual life, you can’t win the fruit. If you don’t make a wish and lead the spiritual life, you can’t win the fruit. If you both make a wish and don’t make a wish and lead the spiritual life, you can’t win the fruit. If you neither make a wish nor don’t make a wish and lead the spiritual life, you can’t win the fruit.’ What does the worthy Bhūmija’s Teacher say about this? How does he explain it?”
“Na
kho
metaṁ,
rājakumāra,
bhagavato
sammukhā
sutaṁ,
sammukhā
paṭiggahitaṁ.
Ṭhānañca
kho
etaṁ
vijjati
yaṁ
bhagavā
evaṁ
byākareyya:
‘āsañcepi
karitvā
ayoniso
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
abhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya;
anāsañcepi
karitvā
ayoniso
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
abhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya;
āsañca
anāsañcepi
karitvā
ayoniso
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
abhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya;
nevāsaṁ
nānāsañcepi
karitvā
ayoniso
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
abhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya.
Āsañcepi
karitvā
yoniso
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
bhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya;
anāsañcepi
karitvā
yoniso
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
bhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya;
āsañca
anāsañcepi
karitvā
yoniso
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
bhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya;
nevāsaṁ
nānāsañcepi
karitvā
yoniso
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
bhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāyā’ti.
Na
kho
me
taṁ,
rājakumāra,
bhagavato
sammukhā
sutaṁ,
sammukhā
paṭiggahitaṁ.
“Prince, I haven’t heard and learned this in the presence of the Buddha. But it’s possible that he might explain it like this: ‘If you lead the spiritual life irrationally, you can’t win the fruit, regardless of whether you make a wish, you don’t make a wish, you both do and do not make a wish, or you neither do nor don’t make a wish. But if you lead the spiritual life rationally, you can win the fruit, regardless of whether you make a wish, you don’t make a wish, you both do and do not make a wish, or you neither do nor don’t make a wish.’ I haven’t heard and learned this in the presence of the Buddha.
Ṭhānañca kho etaṁ vijjati yaṁ bhagavā evaṁ byākareyyā”ti.
But it’s possible that he might explain it like that.”
“Sace kho bhoto bhūmijassa satthā evaṁvādī evamakkhāyī, addhā bhoto bhūmijassa satthā sabbesaṁyeva puthusamaṇabrāhmaṇānaṁ muddhānaṁ maññe āhacca tiṭṭhatī”ti.
“If that’s what your teacher says, worthy Bhūmija, he clearly stands head and shoulders above all the various other ascetics and brahmins.”
Atha kho jayaseno rājakumāro āyasmantaṁ bhūmijaṁ sakeneva thālipākena parivisi.
Then Prince Jayasena served Venerable Bhūmija from his own dish.
Atha
kho
āyasmā
bhūmijo
pacchābhattaṁ
piṇḍapātapaṭikkanto
yena
bhagavā
tenupasaṅkami;
upasaṅkamitvā
bhagavantaṁ
abhivādetvā
ekamantaṁ
nisīdi.
Ekamantaṁ
nisinno
kho
āyasmā
bhūmijo
bhagavantaṁ
etadavoca:
“idhāhaṁ,
bhante,
pubbaṇhasamayaṁ
nivāsetvā
pattacīvaramādāya
yena
jayasenassa
rājakumārassa
nivesanaṁ
tenupasaṅkamiṁ;
upasaṅkamitvā
paññatte
āsane
nisīdiṁ.
Atha
kho,
bhante,
jayaseno
rājakumāro
yenāhaṁ
tenupasaṅkami;
upasaṅkamitvā
mayā
saddhiṁ
sammodi.
Sammodanīyaṁ
kathaṁ
sāraṇīyaṁ
vītisāretvā
ekamantaṁ
nisīdi.
Ekamantaṁ
nisinno
kho,
bhante,
jayaseno
rājakumāro
maṁ
etadavoca:
‘santi,
bho
bhūmija,
eke
samaṇabrāhmaṇā
evaṁvādino
evaṁdiṭṭhino—
āsañcepi
karitvā
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
abhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya;
anāsañcepi
karitvā
…pe…
āsañca
anāsañcepi
karitvā
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
abhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya;
nevāsaṁ
nānāsañcepi
karitvā
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
abhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāyā’ti.
‘Idha
bhoto
bhūmijassa
satthā
kiṁvādī
kimakkhāyī’ti?
Then after the meal, on his return from almsround, Bhūmija went to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side, and told him all that had happened, adding:
Evaṁ
vutte,
ahaṁ,
bhante,
jayasenaṁ
rājakumāraṁ
etadavocaṁ:
‘na
kho
me
taṁ,
rājakumāra,
bhagavato
sammukhā
sutaṁ,
sammukhā
paṭiggahitaṁ.
Ṭhānañca
kho
etaṁ
vijjati
yaṁ
bhagavā
evaṁ
byākareyya—
āsañcepi
karitvā
ayoniso
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
abhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya;
anāsañcepi
karitvā
ayoniso
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
abhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya;
āsañca
anāsañcepi
karitvā
ayoniso
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
abhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya;
nevāsaṁ
nānāsañcepi
karitvā
ayoniso
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
abhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya.
Āsañcepi
karitvā
yoniso
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
bhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya;
anāsañcepi
karitvā
…pe…
āsañca
anāsañcepi
karitvā
…pe…
nevāsaṁ
nānāsañcepi
karitvā
yoniso
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
bhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāyāti.
Na
kho
me
taṁ,
rājakumāra,
bhagavato
sammukhā
sutaṁ,
sammukhā
paṭiggahitaṁ.
When this was said, venerable sir, I said this to Prince Jayasena: “Prince, I have not heard this in the Blessed One’s presence, nor received it in his presence. But there is this case where the Blessed One would explain thus: Even with a wish, if they live the holy life improperly, they are unable to attain the fruit; even without a wish, if they live the holy life improperly, they are unable to attain the fruit; even with both a wish and without a wish, if they live the holy life improperly, they are unable to attain the fruit; even with neither a wish nor without a wish, if they live the holy life improperly, they are unable to attain the fruit. Even with a wish, if they live the holy life properly, they are able to attain the fruit; even without a wish …pe… even with both a wish and without a wish …pe… even with neither a wish nor without a wish, if they live the holy life properly, they are able to attain the fruit.” Prince, I have not heard this in the Blessed One’s presence, nor received it in his presence.
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