The Longer Analysis of Deeds · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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Evaṁ
me
sutaṁ—
ekaṁ
samayaṁ
bhagavā
rājagahe
viharati
veḷuvane
kalandakanivāpe.
So I have heard. At one time the Buddha was staying near Rājagaha in the Bamboo Grove, the squirrels’ feeding ground.
Tena
kho
pana
samayena
āyasmā
samiddhi
araññakuṭikāyaṁ
viharati.
Atha
kho
potaliputto
paribbājako
jaṅghāvihāraṁ
anucaṅkamamāno
anuvicaramāno
yenāyasmā
samiddhi
tenupasaṅkami;
upasaṅkamitvā
āyasmatā
samiddhinā
saddhiṁ
sammodi.
Sammodanīyaṁ
kathaṁ
sāraṇīyaṁ
vītisāretvā
ekamantaṁ
nisīdi.
Ekamantaṁ
nisinno
kho
potaliputto
paribbājako
āyasmantaṁ
samiddhiṁ
etadavoca:
“sammukhā
metaṁ,
āvuso
samiddhi,
samaṇassa
gotamassa
sutaṁ,
sammukhā
paṭiggahitaṁ:
‘moghaṁ
kāyakammaṁ
moghaṁ
vacīkammaṁ,
manokammameva
saccan’ti.
Atthi
ca
sā
samāpatti
yaṁ
samāpattiṁ
samāpanno
na
kiñci
vediyatī”ti?
“Mā
hevaṁ,
āvuso
potaliputta,
avaca;
mā
hevaṁ,
āvuso
potaliputta,
avaca;
mā
bhagavantaṁ
abbhācikkhi.
Na
hi
sādhu
bhagavato
abbhakkhānaṁ.
Na
hi
bhagavā
evaṁ
vadeyya:
‘moghaṁ
kāyakammaṁ
moghaṁ
vacīkammaṁ,
manokammameva
saccan’ti.
Now at that time Venerable Samiddhi was staying in a wilderness hut. Then as the wanderer Potaliputta was going for a walk he came up to Venerable Samiddhi and exchanged greetings with him. When the greetings and polite conversation were over, he sat down to one side and said to him: “Reverend Samiddhi, I have heard and learned this in the presence of the ascetic Gotama: ‘Deeds by way of body and speech are done in vain. Only mental deeds are real.’ And: ‘There is such an attainment where the one who enters it does not feel anything at all.’” “Don’t say that, Reverend Potaliputta, don’t say that! Don’t misrepresent the Buddha, for misrepresentation of the Buddha is not good. And the Buddha would not say this: ‘Deeds by way of body and speech are done in vain. Only mental deeds are real.’
‘Atthi
ca
kho
sā,
āvuso,
samāpatti
yaṁ
samāpattiṁ
samāpanno
na
kiñci
vediyatī’”ti.
“Kīvaciraṁ
pabbajitosi,
āvuso
samiddhī”ti?
“Na
ciraṁ,
āvuso,
tīṇi
vassānī”ti.
“Ettha
dāni
mayaṁ
there
bhikkhū
kiṁ
vakkhāma,
yatra
hi
nāma
evaṁnavo
bhikkhu
satthāraṁ
parirakkhitabbaṁ
maññissati.
Sañcetanikaṁ,
āvuso
samiddhi,
kammaṁ
katvā
kāyena
vācāya
manasā
kiṁ
so
vediyatī”ti?
“Sañcetanikaṁ,
āvuso
potaliputta,
kammaṁ
katvā
kāyena
vācāya
manasā
dukkhaṁ
so
vediyatī”ti.
Atha
kho
potaliputto
paribbājako
āyasmato
samiddhissa
bhāsitaṁ
neva
abhinandi
nappaṭikkosi;
anabhinanditvā
appaṭikkositvā
uṭṭhāyāsanā
pakkāmi.
But, reverend, there is such an attainment where the one who enters it does not feel anything at all.” “Reverend Samiddhi, how long has it been since you went forth?” “Not long, reverend: three years.” “Well now, what are we to say to the senior mendicants, when even such a junior mendicant imagines their Teacher needs defending? After doing an intentional deed by way of body, speech, or mind, reverend, what does one feel?” “After doing an intentional deed by way of body, speech, or mind, reverend, one feels suffering.” Then, neither approving nor rejecting Samiddhi’s statement, Potaliputta rose from his seat and left.
Atha
kho
āyasmā
samiddhi
acirapakkante
potaliputte
paribbājake
yenāyasmā
ānando
tenupasaṅkami;
upasaṅkamitvā
āyasmatā
ānandena
saddhiṁ
sammodi.
Sammodanīyaṁ
kathaṁ
sāraṇīyaṁ
vītisāretvā
ekamantaṁ
nisīdi.
Ekamantaṁ
nisinno
kho
āyasmā
samiddhi
yāvatako
ahosi
potaliputtena
paribbājakena
saddhiṁ
kathāsallāpo
taṁ
sabbaṁ
āyasmato
ānandassa
ārocesi.
Evaṁ
vutte,
āyasmā
ānando
āyasmantaṁ
samiddhiṁ
etadavoca:
“atthi
kho
idaṁ,
āvuso
samiddhi,
kathāpābhataṁ
bhagavantaṁ
dassanāya.
Āyāmāvuso
samiddhi,
yena
bhagavā
tenupasaṅkamissāma;
upasaṅkamitvā
etamatthaṁ
bhagavato
ārocessāma.
Yathā
no
bhagavā
byākarissati
tathā
naṁ
dhāressāmā”ti.
“Evamāvuso”ti
kho
āyasmā
samiddhi
āyasmato
ānandassa
paccassosi.
Soon after he had left, Venerable Samiddhi went to Venerable Ānanda, and exchanged greetings with him. When the greetings and polite conversation were over, he sat down to one side, and informed Ānanda of all they had discussed. When he had spoken, Ānanda said to him, “Reverend Samiddhi, we should see the Buddha about this matter. Come, let’s go to the Buddha and inform him about this. As he answers, so we’ll remember it.” “Yes, reverend,” Samiddhi replied.
Atha
kho
āyasmā
ca
ānando
āyasmā
ca
samiddhi
yena
bhagavā
tenupasaṅkamiṁsu;
upasaṅkamitvā
bhagavantaṁ
abhivādetvā
ekamantaṁ
nisīdiṁsu.
Ekamantaṁ
nisinno
kho
āyasmā
ānando
yāvatako
ahosi
āyasmato
samiddhissa
potaliputtena
paribbājakena
saddhiṁ
kathāsallāpo
taṁ
sabbaṁ
bhagavato
ārocesi.
Then Ānanda and Samiddhi went up to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side, and told him what had happened.
Evaṁ
vutte,
bhagavā
āyasmantaṁ
ānandaṁ
etadavoca:
“dassanampi
kho
ahaṁ,
ānanda,
potaliputtassa
paribbājakassa
nābhijānāmi,
kuto
panevarūpaṁ
kathāsallāpaṁ?
Iminā
ca,
ānanda,
samiddhinā
moghapurisena
potaliputtassa
paribbājakassa
vibhajjabyākaraṇīyo
pañho
ekaṁsena
byākato”ti.
When they had spoken, the Buddha said to Ānanda, “I don’t recall even seeing the wanderer Potaliputta, Ānanda, so how could we have had such a discussion? The wanderer Potaliputta’s question should have been answered after analyzing it, but this futile man answered categorically.”
Evaṁ
vutte,
āyasmā
udāyī
bhagavantaṁ
etadavoca:
“sace
pana,
bhante,
āyasmatā
samiddhinā
idaṁ
sandhāya
bhāsitaṁ—
yaṁ
kiñci
vedayitaṁ
taṁ
dukkhasmin”ti.
Atha
kho
bhagavā
āyasmantaṁ
ānandaṁ
āmantesi:
“passasi
no
tvaṁ,
ānanda,
imassa
udāyissa
moghapurisassa
ummaṅgaṁ?
Aññāsiṁ
kho
ahaṁ,
ānanda:
‘idānevāyaṁ
udāyī
moghapuriso
ummujjamāno
ayoniso
ummujjissatī’ti.
Ādiṁyeva,
ānanda,
potaliputtena
paribbājakena
tisso
vedanā
pucchitā.
Sacāyaṁ,
ānanda,
samiddhi
moghapuriso
potaliputtassa
paribbājakassa
evaṁ
puṭṭho
evaṁ
byākareyya:
‘sañcetanikaṁ,
āvuso
potaliputta,
kammaṁ
katvā
kāyena
vācāya
manasā
sukhavedanīyaṁ
sukhaṁ
so
vedayati;
sañcetanikaṁ,
āvuso
potaliputta,
kammaṁ
katvā
kāyena
vācāya
manasā
dukkhavedanīyaṁ
dukkhaṁ
so
vedayati;
sañcetanikaṁ,
āvuso
potaliputta,
kammaṁ
katvā
kāyena
vācāya
manasā
adukkhamasukhavedanīyaṁ
adukkhamasukhaṁ
so
vedayatī’ti.
When he said this, Venerable Udāyī said to him, “But perhaps, sir, Venerable Samiddhi spoke in reference to the statement: ‘Suffering includes whatever is felt.’” But the Buddha said to Venerable Ānanda, “See what this futile man Udāyī comes up with? I knew that he was coming up with something irrational. Right from the start Potaliputta asked about the three feelings. Suppose the futile man Samiddhi had answered the wanderer Potaliputta’s question like this: ‘After doing an intentional deed to be experienced as pleasant by way of body, speech, or mind, one feels pleasure. After doing an intentional deed to be experienced as painful by way of body, speech, or mind, one feels pain. After doing an intentional deed to be experienced as neutral by way of body, speech, or mind, one feels neutral.’
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