The Inquirer · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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thusEvaṁ
by meme
heardsutaṁ—
oneekaṁ
timesamayaṁ
the Blessed Onebhagavā
at Sāvatthīsāvatthiyaṁ
was stayingviharati
in Jeta's Grovejetavane
of Anāthapiṇḍikaanāthapiṇḍikassa
in the monastery.ārāme.
thereTatra
indeedkho
the Blessed Onebhagavā
mendicantsbhikkhū
addressedāmantesi:
“Mendicants!”“bhikkhavo”ti.
“Venerable sir,”“Bhadante”ti
theyte
mendicantsbhikkhū
to the Blessed Onebhagavato
replied.paccassosuṁ.
the Blessed OneBhagavā
this·saidetadavoca:
So I have heard. At one time the Buddha was staying near Sāvatthī in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s monastery. There the Buddha addressed the mendicants, “Mendicants!” “Venerable sir,” they replied. The Buddha said this:
by an inquirer“vīmaṁsakena, mendicantsbhikkhave, by a mendicantbhikkhunā of anotherparassa mind·coursecetopariyāyaṁ not·knowingajānantena in the Realized Onetathāgate scrutinysamannesanā should be madekātabbā a fully awakened Buddha‘sammāsambuddho orvā notno orvā’ thusiti in order to understandviññāṇāyā”ti.
“Mendicants, a mendicant who is an inquirer, unable to encompass another’s mind, should scrutinize the Realized One to understand whether he is a fully awakened Buddha or not.”
rooted in the Buddha“Bhagavaṁmūlakā
ourno,
sirbhante,
teachingsdhammā,
Buddha·guidedbhagavaṁnettikā
with the Buddha as refugebhagavaṁpaṭisaraṇā;
goodsādhu
indeedvata,
sirbhante,
Buddha·himselfbhagavantaṁyeva
may it appearpaṭibhātu
of thisetassa
spokenbhāsitassa
meaningattho;
of the Buddhabhagavato
having heardsutvā
mendicantsbhikkhū
will rememberdhāressantī”ti.
well then“Tena
thenhi,
mendicantsbhikkhave,
listensuṇātha,
wellsādhukaṁ
in the mindmanasi
applykarotha,
I will speakbhāsissāmī”ti.
yes“Evaṁ,
sirbhante”ti
indeedkho
thosete
mendicantsbhikkhū
to the Buddhabhagavato
repliedpaccassosuṁ.
the BuddhaBhagavā
said thisetadavoca:
“Our teachings are rooted in the Buddha. He is our guide and our refuge. Sir, may the Buddha himself please clarify the meaning of this. The mendicants will listen and remember it.” “Well then, mendicants, listen and apply your mind well, I will speak.” “Yes, sir,” they replied. The Buddha said this:
by an inquirer“Vīmaṁsakena,
mendicantsbhikkhave,
by a mendicantbhikkhunā
another'sparassa
mind·comprehensioncetopariyāyaṁ
not·knowingajānantena
in twodvīsu
thingsdhammesu
the Realized Onetathāgato
thoroughly·scrutinizedsamannesitabbo
eye·ear·cognizablecakkhusotaviññeyyesu
thingsdhammesu:
those which‘ye
corruptsaṅkiliṭṭhā
eye·ear·cognizablecakkhusotaviññeyyā
thingsdhammā,
together·are foundsaṁvijjanti
orvā
theyte
in the Realized Onetathāgatassa
notno
or?vā’ti?
him + thisTamenaṁ
thoroughly·scrutinizingsamannesamāno
thusevaṁ
knowsjānāti:
those which‘ye
corruptsaṅkiliṭṭhā
eye·ear·cognizablecakkhusotaviññeyyā
thingsdhammā,
notna
theyte
in the Realized Onetathāgatassa
are foundsaṁvijjantī’ti.
“Mendicants, a mendicant who is an inquirer, unable to encompass another’s mind, should scrutinize the Realized One for two things—things that can be seen and heard: ‘Can anything corrupt be seen or heard in the Realized One or not?’ Scrutinizing him they find that nothing corrupt can be seen or heard in the Realized One.
whenYato
himnaṁ
together·seeksamannesamāno
thusevaṁ
knows:jānāti:
'which‘ye
defiledsaṅkiliṭṭhā
eye·ear·cognizablecakkhusotaviññeyyā
dhammas,dhammā,
notna
thosete
thus·gonetathāgatassa
are found,quotation markersaṁvijjantī’ti,
thentato
himnaṁ
furtheruttariṁ
together·seeksamannesati:
'which‘ye
mixed·mixedvītimissā
eye·ear·cognizablecakkhusotaviññeyyā
dhammas,dhammā,
together·foundsaṁvijjanti
orvā
thosete
thus·gonetathāgatassa
notno
or?'vā’ti?
himTamenaṁ
together·seeksamannesamāno
thusevaṁ
knows:jānāti:
'which‘ye
mixed·mixedvītimissā
eye·ear·cognizablecakkhusotaviññeyyā
dhammas,dhammā,
notna
thosete
thus·gonetathāgatassa
are found,quotation markersaṁvijjantī’ti.
They scrutinize further: ‘Can anything mixed be seen or heard in the Realized One or not?’ Scrutinizing him they find that nothing mixed can be seen or heard in the Realized One.
whenYato
himnaṁ
together·along·searchsamannesamāno
thusevaṁ
knows:jānāti:
‘which‘ye
mixed·mingledvītimissā
eye·ear·cognizablecakkhusotaviññeyyā
thingsdhammā,
notna
thosete
thus·gonetathāgatassa
with·are foundsaṁvijjantī’ti,
thentato
himnaṁ
furtheruttariṁ
together·along·searchsamannesati:
‘which‘ye
cleanvodātā
eye·ear·cognizablecakkhusotaviññeyyā
thingsdhammā,
with·are foundsaṁvijjanti
orvā
thosete
thus·gonetathāgatassa
notno
or’ti?vā’ti?
him·thenTamenaṁ
together·along·searchsamannesamāno
thusevaṁ
knows:jānāti:
‘which‘ye
cleanvodātā
eye·ear·cognizablecakkhusotaviññeyyā
thingsdhammā,
with·are foundsaṁvijjanti
thosete
thus·gonetathāgatassā’ti.
They scrutinize further: ‘Can anything clean be seen or heard in the Realized One or not?’ Scrutinizing him they find that clean things can be seen and heard in the Realized One.
whenYato
himnaṁ
scrutinizingsamannesamāno
thusevaṁ
knows:jānāti:
which‘ye
brightvodātā
cognizable by eye and earcakkhusotaviññeyyā
dhammas,dhammā,
are presentsaṁvijjanti
thosete
in the Tathāgata'tathāgatassā’ti,
thentato
himnaṁ
furtheruttariṁ
scrutinizes:samannesati:
for a long time‘dīgharattaṁ
attainedsamāpanno
this venerableayamāyasmā
thisimaṁ
skillfulkusalaṁ
state,dhammaṁ,
orudāhu
just recently'?ittarasamāpanno’ti?
himTamenaṁ
scrutinizingsamannesamāno
thusevaṁ
knows:jānāti:
for a long time‘dīgharattaṁ
attainedsamāpanno
this venerableayamāyasmā
thisimaṁ
skillfulkusalaṁ
state,dhammaṁ,
not this venerablenāyamāyasmā
just recently'.ittarasamāpanno’ti.
They scrutinize further: ‘Did the venerable attain this skillful state a long time ago, or just recently?’ Scrutinizing him they find that the venerable attained this skillful state a long time ago, not just recently.
whenYato
himnaṁ
scrutinizingsamannesamāno
thusevaṁ
knows:jānāti:
for a long time‘dīgharattaṁ
entered uponsamāpanno
this + venerableayamāyasmā
thisimaṁ
wholesomekusalaṁ
dhamma,dhammaṁ,
this venerable one is notnāyamāyasmā
one who entered upon brieflyittarasamāpanno’ti,
thentato
himnaṁ
furtheruttariṁ
scrutinizes:samannesati:
one who has achieved renown‘ñattajjhāpanno
this + venerableayamāyasmā
mendicantbhikkhu
who has achieved fameyasappatto,
for one in whom they are foundsaṁvijjantassa
certainidhekacce
dangersādīnavā’ti?
notNa
so long,tāva,
mendicants,bhikkhave,
for a mendicantbhikkhuno
certainidhekacce
dangersādīnavā
are foundsaṁvijjanti
as long asyāva
notna
one who has achieved renownñattajjhāpanno
ishoti
who has achieved fame.yasappatto.
whenYato
andca
indeed,kho,
mendicants,bhikkhave,
a mendicantbhikkhu
one who has achieved renownñattajjhāpanno
ishoti
who has achieved fame,yasappatto,
then + for himathassa
certainidhekacce
dangersādīnavā
are found.saṁvijjanti.
him + himTamenaṁ
scrutinizingsamannesamāno
thusevaṁ
knows:jānāti:
one who has achieved renown‘ñattajjhāpanno
this + venerableayamāyasmā
mendicantbhikkhu
who has achieved fame,yasappatto,
for him are notnāssa
certainidhekacce
dangersādīnavā
are found.saṁvijjantī’ti.
They scrutinize further: ‘Are certain dangers found in that venerable mendicant who has achieved fame and renown?’ For, mendicants, so long as a mendicant has not achieved fame and renown, certain dangers are not found in them. But when they achieve fame and renown, those dangers appear. Scrutinizing him they find that those dangers are not found in that venerable mendicant who has achieved fame and renown.
whenYato
himnaṁ
together·along·seeksamannesamāno
thusevaṁ
he knowsjānāti:
has fallen into misconduct‘ñattajjhāpanno
this·venerableayamāyasmā
monkbhikkhu
fame·attainedyasappatto,
him·to himnāssa
here·someidhekacce
dangersādīnavā
are foundsaṁvijjantī’ti,
thentato
himnaṁ
furtheruttariṁ
together·seeksamannesati:
securely stilled‘abhayūparato
this·venerableayamāyasmā,
not·this·venerablenāyamāyasmā
fear·stilledbhayūparato;
free·greedvītarāgattā
sensual pleasureskāme
notna
they indulge insevati
because of endingkhayā
of greedrāgassā’ti?
him + thisTamenaṁ
together·along·seeksamannesamāno
thusevaṁ
he knowsjānāti:
securely stilled‘abhayūparato
this·venerableayamāyasmā,
not·this·venerablenāyamāyasmā
fear·stilledbhayūparato;
free·greedvītarāgattā
sensual pleasureskāme
notna
they indulge insevati
because of endingkhayā
of greedrāgassā’ti.
They scrutinize further: ‘Is this venerable securely stilled or insecurely stilled? Is the reason they don’t indulge in sensual pleasures that they’re free of greed because greed has ended?’ Scrutinizing him they find that that venerable is securely stilled, not insecurely stilled. The reason they don’t indulge in sensual pleasures is that they’re free of greed because greed has ended.
that + ifTañce,
monksbhikkhave,
that mendicantbhikkhuṁ
otherspare
thusevaṁ
should askpuccheyyuṁ:
what‘ke
but·venerablepanāyasmato
reasonsākārā,
whatke
evidenceanvayā,
because of which + venerableyenāyasmā
thusevaṁ
you sayvadesi—
securely stilledabhayūparato
this + venerableayamāyasmā,
not this venerablenāyamāyasmā
insecurely stilledbhayūparato;
because of being free of greedvītarāgattā
sensual pleasureskāme
notna
he indulges insevati
because of the endingkhayā
of greedrāgassā’ti.
rightlySammā
answeringbyākaramāno,
monksbhikkhave,
a mendicantbhikkhu
thusevaṁ
should answerbyākareyya:
because‘tathā
indeedhi
butpana
this + venerableayamāyasmā
in a communitysaṅghe
orvā
stayingviharanto
aloneeko
orvā
stayingviharanto,
whoye
andca
theretattha
are in a good statesugatā
whoye
andca
theretattha
are in a sorry stateduggatā,
whoye
andca
theretattha
group + instructgaṇamanusāsanti,
whoye
andca
here + someidhekacce
among pleasures of the fleshāmisesu
are seensandissanti,
whoye
andca
here + someidhekacce
by pleasures of the fleshāmisena
un-·sulliedanupalittā,
not + this + venerablenāyamāyasmā
themtaṁ
for thattena
down·knowavajānāti.
in the presenceSammukhā
indeedkho
butpana
this + thismetaṁ
of the Blessed Onebhagavato
heardsutaṁ
in the presencesammukhā
learnedpaṭiggahitaṁ—
I am securely stilledabhayūparatohamasmi,
not + I + amnāhamasmi
insecurely stilledbhayūparato,
because of being free of greedvītarāgattā
sensual pleasureskāme
notna
I indulge insevāmi
because of the endingkhayā
of greedrāgassā’ti.
If others should ask that mendicant, ‘But what reason and evidence does the venerable have for saying this?’ Answering rightly, the mendicant should say, ‘Because, whether that venerable is staying in a community or alone, some people there are in a good state or a sorry state, some instruct a group, and some are seen among pleasures of the flesh while others remain unsullied. Yet that venerable doesn’t look down on them for that. Also, I have heard and learned this in the presence of the Buddha: “I am securely stilled, not insecurely stilled. The reason I don’t indulge in sensual pleasures is that I’m free of greed because greed has ended.”’
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