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Majjhima Nikāya 63

Cūḷamālukyasutta

The Shorter Discourse With Māluṅkya · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral

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not‘na so long Itāvāhaṁ thisimaṁ arrowsallaṁ out·carryāharissāmi as long asyāva notna thattaṁ personpurisaṁ I knowjānāmi by which I wasyenamhi piercedviddho, talldīgho orvā shortrasso orvā mediummajjhimo orvā’ti;
heso soevaṁ might sayvadeyya:
not‘na so long Itāvāhaṁ thisimaṁ arrowsallaṁ out·carryāharissāmi as long asyāva notna thattaṁ personpurisaṁ I knowjānāmi by which I wasyenamhi piercedviddho, blackkāḷo orvā brownsāmo orvā dingy·skinnedmaṅguracchavī orvā’ti;
heso soevaṁ might sayvadeyya:
not‘na so long Itāvāhaṁ thisimaṁ arrowsallaṁ out·carryāharissāmi as long asyāva notna thattaṁ personpurisaṁ I knowjānāmi by which I wasyenamhi piercedviddho, in such-and-suchamukasmiṁ villagegāme orvā townnigame orvā citynagare orvā’ti;
heso soevaṁ might sayvadeyya:
not‘na so long Itāvāhaṁ thisimaṁ arrowsallaṁ out·carryāharissāmi as long asyāva notna thattaṁ bowdhanuṁ I knowjānāmi by which I wasyenamhi piercedviddho, ifyadi orvā straightcāpo ifyadi orvā recurvedkodaṇḍo’ti;
heso soevaṁ might sayvadeyya:

not‘na so long Itāvāhaṁ thisimaṁ arrowsallaṁ out·extractāharissāmi as long asyāva notna thattaṁ bow-stringjiyaṁ I knowjānāmi by which I amyāyamhi piercedviddho, whetheryadi orvā swallow-wort fibreakkassa whetheryadi orvā sunn hemp fibresaṇhassa whetheryadi orvā sinewnhārussa whetheryadi orvā sansevieria fibremaruvāya whetheryadi orvā spurge fibrekhīrapaṇṇino’ti;
heso thusevaṁ might sayvadeyya:
not‘na so long Itāvāhaṁ thisimaṁ arrowsallaṁ out·extractāharissāmi as long asyāva notna thattaṁ shaftkaṇḍaṁ I knowjānāmi by which I amyenamhi piercedviddho, whetheryadi orvā bushgacchaṁ whetheryadi orvā plantation treeropiman’ti;
heso thusevaṁ might sayvadeyya:
not‘na so long Itāvāhaṁ thisimaṁ arrowsallaṁ out·extractāharissāmi as long asyāva notna thattaṁ shaftkaṇḍaṁ I knowjānāmi by which I amyenamhi piercedviddho, of whichyassa with featherspattehi fittedvājitaṁ whetheryadi orvā vulturegijjhassa whetheryadi orvā heronkaṅkassa whetheryadi orvā hawkkulalassa whetheryadi orvā peacockmorassa whetheryadi orvā storksithilahanuno’ti;
heso thusevaṁ might sayvadeyya:

not‘na yet Itāvāhaṁ thisimaṁ arrowsallaṁ out·takeāharissāmi as long asyāva notna thattaṁ shaftkaṇḍaṁ I knowjānāmi which + amyenamhi piercedviddho, of whichyassa with sinewnhārunā around·boundparikkhittaṁ ifyadi orvā of a cowgavassa ifyadi orvā of a buffalomahiṁsassa ifyadi orvā of a black lionbheravassa ifyadi orvā of an ape'semhārassā’ti;
heso thusevaṁ would sayvadeyya:
not‘na yet Itāvāhaṁ thisimaṁ arrowsallaṁ out·takeāharissāmi as long asyāva notna thattaṁ arrowsallaṁ I knowjānāmi which + amyenamhi piercedviddho, ifyadi orvā spikedsallaṁ ifyadi orvā razor-tippedkhurappaṁ ifyadi orvā barbedvekaṇḍaṁ ifyadi orvā of ironnārācaṁ ifyadi orvā of calf's toothvacchadantaṁ ifyadi orvā lancet-shaped'karavīrapattan’ti—
unknown + indeedaññātameva thattaṁ, Mālukyaputtamālukyaputta, by thattena by that manpurisena would beassa, thenatha thatso manpuriso timekālaṁ would dokareyya.
thus + indeedEvameva indeedkho, Mālukyaputtamālukyaputta, whoyo thusevaṁ would sayvadeyya:
not‘na yet Itāvāhaṁ under the Blessed Onebhagavati the spiritual lifebrahmacariyaṁ will leadcarissāmi as long asyāva to meme the Blessed Onebhagavā notna will declarebyākarissati:
eternal“sassato the cosmosloko”ti orvā not eternal“asassato the cosmosloko”ti orvā …pe……pe…

neither“neva still existshoti norna notna still existshoti thus·gonetathāgato afterparaṁ deathmaraṇā”ti orvā’ti—
undeclared·justabyākatameva thattaṁ, Māluṅkyaputtamālukyaputta, thus·gonetathāgatena it would beassa, and meanwhileatha thatso individualpuggalo timekālaṁ would diekareyya.

'eternal‘Sassato the cosmos is'loko’ti, Māluṅkyaputtamālukyaputta, of viewdiṭṭhiyā there beingsati spiritual·life·livingbrahmacariyavāso toward·be + quotationabhavissāti, soevaṁ not.no.
'not eternal‘Asassato the cosmos is'loko’ti, Māluṅkyaputtamālukyaputta, of viewdiṭṭhiyā there beingsati spiritual·life·livingbrahmacariyavāso toward·be + quotationabhavissāti, so tooevampi not.no.
'eternal‘Sassato the cosmos is'loko’ti or,vā, Māluṅkyaputtamālukyaputta, of viewdiṭṭhiyā there being,sati, 'not eternal‘asassato the cosmos is'loko’ti orvā of viewdiṭṭhiyā there beingsati be + stillattheva rebirth,jāti, there isatthi old age,jarā, there isatthi death,maraṇaṁ, there aresanti sorrow, lamentation, pain, sadness, and distress;sokaparidevadukkhadomanassupāyāsā;
which + Iyesāhaṁ seen + verydiṭṭheva in the dhammadhamme down·strikenighātaṁ I advocate.paññapemi.
'finite‘Antavā the cosmos is'loko’ti, Māluṅkyaputtamālukyaputta, of viewdiṭṭhiyā there beingsati spiritual·life·livingbrahmacariyavāso toward·be + quotationabhavissāti, soevaṁ not.no.
'infinite‘Anantavā the cosmos is'loko’ti, Māluṅkyaputtamālukyaputta, of viewdiṭṭhiyā there beingsati spiritual·life·livingbrahmacariyavāso toward·be + quotationabhavissāti, so tooevampi not.no.
'finite‘Antavā the cosmos is'loko’ti or,vā, Māluṅkyaputtamālukyaputta, of viewdiṭṭhiyā there being,sati, 'infinite‘anantavā the cosmos is'loko’ti orvā of viewdiṭṭhiyā there beingsati be + stillattheva rebirth,jāti, there isatthi old age,jarā, there isatthi death,maraṇaṁ, there aresanti sorrow, lamentation, pain, sadness, and distress;sokaparidevadukkhadomanassupāyāsā;
which + Iyesāhaṁ seen + verydiṭṭheva in the dhammadhamme down·strikenighātaṁ I advocate.paññapemi.
'the soul‘Taṁ isjīvaṁ the same astaṁ the body'sarīran’ti, Māluṅkyaputtamālukyaputta, of viewdiṭṭhiyā there beingsati spiritual·life·livingbrahmacariyavāso toward·be + quotationabhavissāti, soevaṁ not.no.

one thing‘Aññaṁ the souljīvaṁ anotheraññaṁ the body.'sarīran’ti, Mālukyaputta,mālukyaputta, with viewdiṭṭhiyā beingsati spiritual life·livingbrahmacariyavāso would have beenabhavissāti, even soevampi no.no.
the‘Taṁ souljīvaṁ thetaṁ body.'sarīran’ti or,vā, Mālukyaputta,mālukyaputta, with viewdiṭṭhiyā being,sati, 'the soul is one thing‘aññaṁ the souljīvaṁ one thingaññaṁ the body.'sarīran’ti orvā with viewdiṭṭhiyā beingsati there is justattheva birthjāti ……pe…
destructionnighātaṁ I declare.paññapemi.
'Exists‘Hoti thus·gonetathāgato afterparaṁ death.'maraṇā’ti, Mālukyaputta,mālukyaputta, with viewdiṭṭhiyā beingsati spiritual life·livingbrahmacariyavāso would have beenabhavissāti, even soevaṁ no.no.
'Does not‘Na existhoti thus·gonetathāgato afterparaṁ death.'maraṇā’ti, Mālukyaputta,mālukyaputta, with viewdiṭṭhiyā beingsati spiritual life·livingbrahmacariyavāso would have beenabhavissāti, even soevampi no.no.
'Exists‘Hoti thus·gonetathāgato afterparaṁ death,'maraṇā’ti or,vā, Mālukyaputta,mālukyaputta, with viewdiṭṭhiyā being,sati, 'does not‘na existhoti thus·gonetathāgato afterparaṁ death,'maraṇā’ti orvā with viewdiṭṭhiyā beingsati there is justattheva birthjāti ……pe…
which Iyesāhaṁ in this very lifediṭṭheva in the teachingdhamme destructionnighātaṁ I declare.paññapemi.
'Exists‘Hoti bothca notna andca existshoti thus·gonetathāgato afterparaṁ death,'maraṇā’ti, Mālukyaputta,mālukyaputta, with viewdiṭṭhiyā beingsati spiritual life·livingbrahmacariyavāso would have beenabhavissāti, even soevaṁ no.no.

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