With Bhaddāli · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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what“Ko
indeednu
indeedkho,
sirbhante,
causehetu,
whatko
reasonpaccayo
because of whichyena
formerlypubbe
fewerappatarāni
andceva
training rulessikkhāpadāni
there wereahesuṁ
morebahutarā
andca
mendicantsbhikkhū
having fully understoodaññāya
they were establishedsaṇṭhahiṁsu?
whatKo
andpana,
sirbhante,
causehetu,
whatko
reasonpaccayo
because of whichyena
nowetarahi
morebahutarāni
andceva
training rulessikkhāpadāni
there arehonti
fewerappatarā
andca
mendicantsbhikkhū
having fully understoodaññāya
they are establishedsaṇṭhahantī”ti?
“What is the cause, sir, what is the reason why there used to be fewer training rules but more enlightened mendicants? And what is the cause, what is the reason why these days there are more training rules and fewer enlightened mendicants?”
Thus is this“Evametaṁ,
Bhaddālibhaddāli,
it ishoti
in beingssattesu
in declinehāyamānesu,
in the true teachingsaddhamme
disappearingantaradhāyamāne,
more numerousbahutarāni
andceva
training rulessikkhāpadāni
there arehonti
fewerappatarā
andca
mendicantsbhikkhū
with final knowledgeaññāya
remainsaṇṭhahantīti.
notNa
yettāva,
Bhaddālibhaddāli,
the Teachersatthā
for disciplessāvakānaṁ
a training rulesikkhāpadaṁ
lays downpaññāpeti
as long asyāva
notna
certain hereidhekacce
defiling influencesāsavaṭṭhānīyā
qualitiesdhammā
in the Saṅghasaṅghe
appearpātubhavanti.
WhenYato
andca
indeedkho,
Bhaddālibhaddāli,
certain hereidhekacce
defiling influencesāsavaṭṭhānīyā
qualitiesdhammā
in the Saṅghasaṅghe
appearpātubhavanti,
thenatha
the Teachersatthā
for disciplessāvakānaṁ
a training rulesikkhāpadaṁ
lays downpaññāpeti
for these verytesaṁyeva
defiling influencesāsavaṭṭhānīyānaṁ
qualitiesdhammānaṁ
for protectionpaṭighātāya.
“That’s how it is, Bhaddāli. When sentient beings are in decline and the true teaching is disappearing there are more training rules and fewer enlightened mendicants. The Teacher does not lay down training rules for disciples as long as certain defiling influences have not appeared in the Saṅgha. But when such defiling influences appear in the Saṅgha, the Teacher lays down training rules for disciples to protect against them.
notNa
yettāva,
Bhaddālibhaddāli,
some hereidhekacce
defiling influencesāsavaṭṭhānīyā
dhammasdhammā
in the Saṅghasaṅghe
appearpātubhavanti
as long asyāva
notna
the Saṅghasaṅgho
greatnessmahattaṁ
attainedpatto
ishoti.
but whenYato
andca
indeedkho,
Bhaddālibhaddāli,
the Saṅghasaṅgho
greatnessmahattaṁ
attainedpatto
ishoti,
thenatha
some hereidhekacce
defiling influencesāsavaṭṭhānīyā
dhammasdhammā
in the Saṅghasaṅghe
appearpātubhavanti.
thenAtha
the Teachersatthā
for disciplessāvakānaṁ
training rulesikkhāpadaṁ
lays downpaññāpeti
for those verytesaṁyeva
of defiling influencesāsavaṭṭhānīyānaṁ
of dhammasdhammānaṁ
for protectionpaṭighātāya.
notNa
yettāva,
Bhaddālibhaddāli,
some hereidhekacce
defiling influencesāsavaṭṭhānīyā
dhammasdhammā
in the Saṅghasaṅghe
appearpātubhavanti
as long asyāva
notna
the Saṅghasaṅgho
peak of gainlābhaggaṁ
attainedpatto
ishoti,
peak of fameyasaggaṁ
attainedpatto
ishoti,
great learningbāhusaccaṁ
attainedpatto
ishoti,
seniorityrattaññutaṁ
attainedpatto
ishoti.
but whenYato
andca
indeedkho,
Bhaddālibhaddāli,
the Saṅghasaṅgho
seniorityrattaññutaṁ
attainedpatto
ishoti,
thenatha
some hereidhekacce
defiling influencesāsavaṭṭhānīyā
dhammasdhammā
in the Saṅghasaṅghe
appearpātubhavanti,
thenatha
the Teachersatthā
for disciplessāvakānaṁ
training rulesikkhāpadaṁ
lays downpaññāpeti
for those verytesaṁyeva
of defiling influencesāsavaṭṭhānīyānaṁ
of dhammasdhammānaṁ
for protectionpaṭighātāya.
And they don’t appear until the Saṅgha has attained a great size, an abundance of material support and fame, learning, and seniority. But when the Saṅgha has attained these things, then such defiling influences appear in the Saṅgha, and the Teacher lays down training rules for disciples to protect against them.
fewAppakā
indeedkho
youtumhe,
Bhaddālibhaddāli,
at thattena
timesamayena
you wereahuvattha
whenyadā
to youvo
Iahaṁ
simile of the thoroughbred coltājānīyasusūpamaṁ
exposition of the teachingdhammapariyāyaṁ
taughtdesesiṁ.
thatTaṁ
you remembersarasi
Bhaddāli?”bhaddālī”ti?
No“No
indeed thishetaṁ,
sirbhante”.
In that case,“Tatra,
Bhaddāli,bhaddāli,
whatkaṁ
reasonhetuṁ
you believepaccesī”ti?
That“So
surelyhi
Inūnāhaṁ,
sir,bhante,
for a long timedīgharattaṁ
in the Teacher's instructionsatthusāsane
in the trainingsikkhāya
one not fulfillingaparipūrakārī
I wasahosin”ti.
Not“Na
indeed,kho,
Bhaddāli,bhaddāli,
this onlyeseva
reason,hetu,
thisesa
condition.paccayo.
ButApi
andca
by meme
you,tvaṁ,
Bhaddāli,bhaddāli,
for a long timedīgharattaṁ
with the mindcetasā
having encompassed by mindcetoparicca
known:vidito:
not‘na
and thiscāyaṁ
futile manmoghapuriso
by memayā
teachingdhamme
being taughtdesiyamāne
attentionaṭṭhiṁ
having madekatvā
in the mindmanasi
having madekatvā
wholeheartedlysabbacetaso
having concentratedsamannāharitvā
with attentive earohitasoto
the teachingdhammaṁ
listens.suṇātī’ti.
ButApi
andca
to youte
I,ahaṁ,
Bhaddāli,bhaddāli,
simile of the thoroughbred coltājānīyasusūpamaṁ
exposition of the teachingdhammapariyāyaṁ
I shall teach.desessāmi.
ThatTaṁ
listen;suṇāhi,
wellsādhukaṁ
in the mindmanasi
apply;karohi;
I will speak.”bhāsissāmī”ti.
“Yes,“Evaṁ,
sir”bhante”ti
indeedkho
venerableāyasmā
Bhaddālibhaddāli
to the Buddhabhagavato
replied.paccassosi.
The BuddhaBhagavā
said this:etadavoca:
There were only a few of you there at the time when I taught the exposition on the simile of the thoroughbred colt. Do you remember that, Bhaddāli?” “No, sir.” “What do you believe the reason for that is?” “Sir, it’s surely because for a long time now I haven’t fulfilled the training according to the Teacher’s instructions.” “That’s not the only reason, Bhaddāli. Rather, for a long time I have encompassed your mind and known: ‘While I’m teaching, this futile man doesn’t pay attention, apply the mind, concentrate wholeheartedly, or actively listen to the teaching.’ Still, Bhaddāli, I shall teach the exposition on the simile of the thoroughbred colt. Listen and apply your mind well, I will speak.” “Yes, sir,” Bhaddāli replied. The Buddha said this:
just as“Seyyathāpi,
Bhaddālibhaddāli,
deftdakkho
horse trainerassadamako
finebhadraṁ
thoroughbredassājānīyaṁ
having obtainedlabhitvā
first of allpaṭhameneva
wearing the bitmukhādhāne
procedurekāraṇaṁ
makes dokāreti.
of itTassa
wearing the bitmukhādhāne
procedurekāraṇaṁ
being made to dokāriyamānassa
there still arehontiyeva
twistsvisūkāyitāni
ducksvisevitāni
dodgesvipphanditāni
somekānici
somekānici,
asyathā
thattaṁ
not done beforeakāritapubbaṁ
procedurekāraṇaṁ
being made to dokāriyamānassa.
itSo
regular practiceabhiṇhakāraṇā
gradual practiceanupubbakāraṇā
in thattasmiṁ
placeṭhāne
is extinguishedparinibbāyati.
whenYato
indeedkho,
Bhaddālibhaddāli,
finebhadro
thoroughbredassājānīyo
regular practiceabhiṇhakāraṇā
gradual practiceanupubbakāraṇā
in thattasmiṁ
placeṭhāne
extinguishedparinibbuto
ishoti,
then ittamenaṁ
horse trainerassadamako
furtheruttari
procedurekāraṇaṁ
makes dokāreti
wearing the harnessyugādhāne.
of itTassa
wearing the harnessyugādhāne
procedurekāraṇaṁ
being made to dokāriyamānassa
there still arehontiyeva
twistsvisūkāyitāni
ducksvisevitāni
dodgesvipphanditāni
somekānici
somekānici,
asyathā
thattaṁ
not done beforeakāritapubbaṁ
procedurekāraṇaṁ
being made to dokāriyamānassa.
itSo
regular practiceabhiṇhakāraṇā
gradual practiceanupubbakāraṇā
in thattasmiṁ
placeṭhāne
is extinguishedparinibbāyati.
whenYato
indeedkho,
Bhaddālibhaddāli,
finebhadro
thoroughbredassājānīyo
regular practiceabhiṇhakāraṇā
gradual practiceanupubbakāraṇā
in thattasmiṁ
placeṭhāne
extinguishedparinibbuto
ishoti,
then ittamenaṁ
horse trainerassadamako
furtheruttari
procedurekāraṇaṁ
makes dokāreti
walking in processionanukkame
circlingmaṇḍale
prancingkhurakāse
gallopingdhāve
chargingdavatte
protocols of courtrājaguṇe
customs of courtrājavaṁse
very bestuttame
speedjave
very bestuttame
fleetnesshaye
very bestuttame
camaraderiesākhalye.
“Suppose a deft horse trainer were to obtain a fine thoroughbred. First of all he’d make it get used to wearing the bit. Because it has not done this before, it still resorts to some twists, ducks, and dodges. But with regular and gradual practice its bad behavior is extinguished. When it has done this, the horse trainer next makes it get used to wearing the harness. Because it has not done this before, it still resorts to some twists, ducks, and dodges. But with regular and gradual practice its bad behavior is extinguished. When it has done this, the horse trainer next makes it get used to walking in procession, circling, prancing, galloping, charging, the protocols and customs of court, and in the very best speed, fleetness, and camaraderie.
for itTassa
supremeuttame
in speedjave
supremeuttame
in horsehaye
supremeuttame
in trainingsākhalye
the taskkāraṇaṁ
being made to dokāriyamānassa
there are indeedhontiyeva
twistsvisūkāyitāni
ducksvisevitāni
dodgesvipphanditāni
somekānici
somekānici,
asyathā
thattaṁ
not done beforeakāritapubbaṁ
the taskkāraṇaṁ
being made to dokāriyamānassa.
itSo
through regular practiceabhiṇhakāraṇā
through gradual practiceanupubbakāraṇā
in thattasmiṁ
in regardṭhāne
is fully extinguishedparinibbāyati.
whenYato
indeedkho,
Bhaddālibhaddāli,
a finebhadro
royal thoroughbredassājānīyo
through regular practiceabhiṇhakāraṇā
through gradual practiceanupubbakāraṇā
in thattasmiṁ
in regardṭhāne
fully extinguishedparinibbuto
ishoti,
then ittamenaṁ
the horse trainerassadamako
furtheruttari
a grooming andvaṇṇiyañca
a rub downpāṇiyañca
rewards withanuppavecchati.
with theseImehi
indeedkho,
Bhaddālibhaddāli,
with ten factorsdasahaṅgehi
endowedsamannāgato
a finebhadro
royal thoroughbredassājānīyo
worthy of a kingrājāraho
ishoti
fit to serve a kingrājabhoggo
of the kingrañño
as a factor indeedaṅganteva
in reckoningsaṅkhyaṁ
goesgacchati.
Because it has not done this before, it still resorts to some twists, ducks, and dodges. But with regular and gradual practice its bad behavior is extinguished. When it has done this, the horse trainer next rewards it with a grooming and a rub down. A fine royal thoroughbred with these ten factors is worthy of a king, fit to serve a king, and reckoned as a factor of kingship.
just soEvameva
indeedkho,
Bhaddālibhaddāli,
with tendasahi
with qualitiesdhammehi
endowedsamannāgato
a mendicantbhikkhu
worthy of offeringsāhuneyyo
ishoti
worthy of hospitalitypāhuneyyo
worthy of a religious donationdakkhiṇeyyo
worthy of veneration with cupped palmsañjalikaraṇīyo
supremeanuttaraṁ
field of meritpuññakkhettaṁ
for the worldlokassa.
with whichKatamehi
ten?dasahi?
hereIdha,
Bhaddālibhaddāli,
a mendicantbhikkhu
with an adept’sasekhāya
right viewsammādiṭṭhiyā
endowedsamannāgato
ishoti,
with an adept’sasekhena
right purposesammāsaṅkappena
endowedsamannāgato
ishoti,
with an adept’sasekhāya
right speechsammāvācāya
endowedsamannāgato
ishoti,
with an adept’sasekhena
right actionsammākammantena
endowedsamannāgato
ishoti,
with an adept’sasekhena
right livelihoodsammāājīvena
endowedsamannāgato
ishoti,
with an adept’sasekhena
right effortsammāvāyāmena
endowedsamannāgato
ishoti,
with an adept’sasekhāya
right mindfulnesssammāsatiyā
endowedsamannāgato
ishoti,
with an adept’sasekhena
right immersionsammāsamādhinā
endowedsamannāgato
ishoti,
with an adept’sasekhena
right knowledgesammāñāṇena
endowedsamannāgato
ishoti,
with an adept’sasekhāya
right freedomsammāvimuttiyā
endowedsamannāgato
is—hoti—
with theseimehi
indeedkho,
Bhaddālibhaddāli,
with tendasahi
with qualitiesdhammehi
endowedsamannāgato
a mendicantbhikkhu
worthy of offeringsāhuneyyo
ishoti
worthy of hospitalitypāhuneyyo
worthy of a religious donationdakkhiṇeyyo
worthy of veneration with cupped palmsañjalikaraṇīyo
supremeanuttaraṁ
field of meritpuññakkhettaṁ
for the worldlokassā”ti.
this saidIdamavoca
the Blessed Onebhagavā.
satisfiedAttamano
Venerableāyasmā
Bhaddālibhaddāli
of the Blessed Onebhagavato
what was saidbhāsitaṁ
approvedabhinandīti.
the Bhaddāli DiscourseBhaddālisuttaṁ
is finishedniṭṭhitaṁ
fifthpañcamaṁ.
In the same way, a mendicant with ten qualities is worthy of offerings dedicated to the gods, worthy of hospitality, worthy of a religious donation, worthy of veneration with cupped palms, and is the supreme field of merit for the world. What ten? It’s when a mendicant has an adept’s right view, right purpose, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, right immersion, right knowledge, and right freedom. A mendicant with these ten qualities is worthy of offerings dedicated to the gods, worthy of hospitality, worthy of a religious donation, worthy of veneration with cupped palms, and is the supreme field of merit for the world.” That is what the Buddha said. Satisfied, Venerable Bhaddāli approved what the Buddha said.
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