To Vacchagotta on the Three Knowledges · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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soEvaṁ
by meme
heardsutaṁ—
oneekaṁ
timesamayaṁ
the Buddhabhagavā
near Vesālīvesāliyaṁ
apart·dwellviharati
at the Great Woodmahāvane
in the hall with the peaked roofkūṭāgārasālāyaṁ.
So I have heard. At one time the Buddha was staying near Vesālī, at the Great Wood, in the hall with the peaked roof.
at thatTena indeedkho nowpana timesamayena Vacchagottavacchagotto wandererparibbājako one·lotusekapuṇḍarīke wanderer·monasteryparibbājakārāme against·dwellpaṭivasati.
Now at that time the wanderer Vacchagotta was residing in the Single Lotus monastery for the wanderers.
thenAtha
indeedkho
the Blessed Onebhagavā
morning·timepubbaṇhasamayaṁ
having robed upnivāsetvā
bowl·robe·takingpattacīvaramādāya
Vesālīvesāliṁ
for almspiṇḍāya
into·enterpāvisi.
thenAtha
indeedkho
to the Blessed Onebhagavato
this·wasetadahosi:
too early“atippago
indeedkho
stilltāva
in Vesālīvesāliyaṁ
for almspiṇḍāya
to wandercarituṁ;
why don't Iyannūnāhaṁ
whereyena
single·lotusekapuṇḍarīko
wanderer's monasteryparibbājakārāmo
whereyena
Vacchagottavacchagotto
the wandererparibbājako
there I should approach himtenupasaṅkameyyan”ti.
thenAtha
indeedkho
the Blessed Onebhagavā
whereyena
single·lotusekapuṇḍarīko
wanderer's monasteryparibbājakārāmo
whereyena
Vacchagottavacchagotto
the wandererparibbājako
there he approached himtenupasaṅkami.
Then the Buddha robed up in the morning and, taking his bowl and robe, entered Vesālī for alms. Then it occurred to him, “It’s too early to wander for alms in Vesālī. Why don’t I visit the wanderer Vacchagotta at the Single Lotus Monastery?” So that’s what he did.
past·seeAddasā
indeedkho
Vacchagottavacchagotto
wandererparibbājako
the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ
from afardūratova
coming.āgacchantaṁ.
having seenDisvāna
the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ
this·saidetadavoca:
let come“Etu
indeedkho,
sirbhante,
the Blessed Onebhagavā.
welcomeSvāgataṁ,
sirbhante,
to the Blessed Onebhagavato.
a long timeCirassaṁ
indeedkho,
sirbhante,
the Blessed Onebhagavā
thisimaṁ
opportunity·madepariyāyamakāsi
which·thisyadidaṁ
here·comingidhāgamanāya.
let sit downNisīdatu,
sirbhante,
the Blessed Onebhagavā
this·seatidamāsanaṁ
is ready.paññattan”ti.
sat downNisīdi
the Blessed Onebhagavā
preparedpaññatte
seat.āsane.
Vacchagotta·tooVacchagottopi
indeedkho
wandererparibbājako
a certainaññataraṁ
lownīcaṁ
seatāsanaṁ
having takengahetvā
to one sideekamantaṁ
sat down.nisīdi.
to one sideEkamantaṁ
seatednisinno
indeedkho
Vacchagottavacchagotto
wandererparibbājako
the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ
this·saidetadavoca:
Vacchagotta saw the Buddha coming off in the distance, and said to him, “Let the Blessed One come, sir! Welcome to the Blessed One, sir! It’s been a long time since you took the opportunity to come here. Please, sir, sit down, here, a seat is ready.” The Buddha sat down on the seat spread out, while Vacchagotta took a low seat and sat to one side. Then Vacchagotta said to the Buddha:
heard“sutaṁ
this by memetaṁ,
sirbhante:
ascetic‘samaṇo
Gotamagotamo
all·knowingsabbaññū
all-seeingsabbadassāvī,
without exceptionaparisesaṁ
knowledge·visionñāṇadassanaṁ
claimspaṭijānāti,
while walkingcarato
andca
to meme
while standingtiṭṭhato
andca
while sleepingsuttassa
andca
while wakingjāgarassa
andca
constantlysatataṁ
continuallysamitaṁ
knowledge·visionñāṇadassanaṁ
are presentpaccupaṭṭhitan’ti.
thoseYe
whote,
sirbhante,
thus sayevamāhaṁsu:
ascetic‘samaṇo
Gotamagotamo
all·knowingsabbaññū
all-seeingsabbadassāvī,
without exceptionaparisesaṁ
knowledge·visionñāṇadassanaṁ
claimspaṭijānāti,
while walkingcarato
andca
to meme
while standingtiṭṭhato
andca
while sleepingsuttassa
andca
while wakingjāgarassa
andca
constantlysatataṁ
continuallysamitaṁ
knowledge·visionñāṇadassanaṁ
are presentpaccupaṭṭhitan’ti,
do theykacci
thosete,
sirbhante,
of the Blessed Onebhagavato
speaking what was saidvuttavādino,
notna
andca
the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ
with an untruthabhūtena
misrepresentabbhācikkhanti,
of the teachingdhammassa
and in line with the teachingcānudhammaṁ
explainbyākaronti,
notna
andca
anykoci
legitimatesahadhammiko
grounds for rebuttal and criticismvādānuvādo
blameworthygārayhaṁ
positionṭhānaṁ
comes toāgacchatī”ti?
“Sir, I have heard this: ‘The ascetic Gotama claims to be all-knowing and all-seeing, to know and see everything without exception, thus: “Knowledge and vision are constantly and continually present to me, while walking, standing, sleeping, and waking.”’ I trust those who say this repeat what the Buddha has said, and do not misrepresent him with an untruth? Is their explanation in line with the teaching? Are there any legitimate grounds for rebuttal and criticism?”
those who“Ye theyte, Vacchavaccha, thus they saidevamāhaṁsu: the ascetic‘samaṇo Gotamagotamo all·knowingsabbaññū all-seeingsabbadassāvī, completeaparisesaṁ knowledge·visionñāṇadassanaṁ he claimspaṭijānāti, while walkingcarato andca of meme while standingtiṭṭhato andca while sleepingsuttassa andca while awakejāgarassa andca constantlysatataṁ continuallysamitaṁ knowledge·visionñāṇadassanaṁ is establishedpaccupaṭṭhitan’ti, notna meme theyte are speakers of what was saidvuttavādino, they misrepresentabbhācikkhanti andca indeedpana memaṁ not·trueasatā with what is untrueabhūtenā”ti.
“Vaccha, those who say this do not repeat what I have said. They misrepresent me with what is false and untrue.”
how?“Kathaṁ
out·dobyākaramānā
thenpana
wemayaṁ,
sirbhante,
said·speakervuttavādino
and indeedceva
of the Blessed Onebhagavato
we would beassāma,
notna
andca
the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ
un·beabhūtena
we would misrepresentabbhācikkheyyāma,
of the dhammadhammassa
and in line with the teachingcānudhammaṁ
we would explainbyākareyyāma,
notna
andca
anykoci
legitimate co-religionistsahadhammiko
grounds for rebuttalvādānuvādo
censurablegārayhaṁ
groundṭhānaṁ
to·goāgaccheyyā”ti?
with the three knowledges“‘Tevijjo
the asceticsamaṇo
Gotama, quotation markergotamo’ti
indeedkho,
Vacchavaccha,
out·dobyākaramāno
said·speakervuttavādī
and indeedceva
of meme
you would beassa,
notna
andca
memaṁ
un·beabhūtena
you would misrepresentabbhācikkheyya,
of the dhammadhammassa
and in line with the teachingcānudhammaṁ
you would explainbyākareyya,
notna
andca
anykoci
legitimate co-religionistsahadhammiko
grounds for rebuttalvādānuvādo
censurablegārayhaṁ
groundṭhānaṁ
to·goāgaccheyya.
“So how should we answer so as to repeat what the Buddha has said, and not misrepresent him with an untruth? How should we explain in line with his teaching, with no legitimate grounds for rebuttal and criticism?” “‘The ascetic Gotama has the three knowledges.’ Answering like this you would repeat what I have said, and not misrepresent me with an untruth. You would explain in line with my teaching, and there would be no legitimate grounds for rebuttal and criticism.
I·indeedAhañhi,
Vacchavaccha,
wheneveryāvadeva
I wantākaṅkhāmi
many·kindsanekavihitaṁ
past·livespubbenivāsaṁ
I recollectanussarāmi,
that-is + one·tooseyyathidaṁ—ekampi
birthjātiṁ
two·toodvepi
birthsjātiyo
…pe……pe…
thusiti
with featuressākāraṁ
with·detailssauddesaṁ
many·kindsanekavihitaṁ
past·livespubbenivāsaṁ
I recollectanussarāmi.
For, Vaccha, whenever I want, I recollect my many kinds of past lives. That is: one, two, three, four, five, ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, a hundred, a thousand, a hundred thousand rebirths; many eons of the world contracting, many eons of the world expanding, many eons of the world contracting and expanding. I remember: ‘There, I was named this, my clan was that, I looked like this, and that was my food. This was how I felt pleasure and pain, and that was how my life ended. When I passed away from that place I was reborn somewhere else. There, too, I was named this, my clan was that, I looked like this, and that was my food. This was how I felt pleasure and pain, and that was how my life ended. When I passed away from that place I was reborn here.’ And so I recollect my many kinds of past lives, with features and details.
I·indeedAhañhi, Vacchavaccha, as far as I wishyāvadeva I wishākaṅkhāmi with divinedibbena with eyecakkhunā purifiedvisuddhena surpassing·humanatikkantamānusakena beingssatte I seepassāmi passing awaycavamāne being rebornupapajjamāne inferiorhīne superiorpaṇīte beautifulsuvaṇṇe uglydubbaṇṇe in a good placesugate in a bad placeduggate ……pe… according to·deed·pass onyathākammūpage beingssatte I understandpajānāmi.
And whenever I want, with clairvoyance that is purified and superhuman, I see sentient beings passing away and being reborn—inferior and superior, beautiful and ugly, in a good place or a bad place. I understand how sentient beings pass on according to their deeds.
I + indeedAhañhi, Vacchavaccha, of the defilementsāsavānaṁ due to the endingkhayā not·defilementanāsavaṁ heart·freedomcetovimuttiṁ wisdom·freedompaññāvimuttiṁ seen + verydiṭṭheva in the dhammadhamme myselfsayaṁ higher·knowledgeabhiññā with own eyes·having donesacchikatvā near·attainedupasampajja I liveviharāmi.
And I have realized the undefiled freedom of heart and freedom by wisdom. I live having realized it with my own insight in this very life due to the ending of defilements.
three-knowledged‘Tevijjo asceticsamaṇo Gotamagotamo’ti indeedkho, Vacchavaccha, out·dobyākaramāno said·speakervuttavādī and + justceva of meme you would beassa, notna andca memaṁ not·trueabhūtena would misrepresentabbhācikkheyya, of the dhammadhammassa and + in-line-withcānudhammaṁ would explainbyākareyya, notna andca anykoci with·dhammasahadhammiko rebuttal·criticismvādānuvādo censurablegārayhaṁ groundṭhānaṁ would come toāgaccheyyā”ti.
‘The ascetic Gotama has the three knowledges.’ Answering like this you would repeat what I have said, and not misrepresent me with an untruth. You would explain in line with my teaching, and there would be no legitimate grounds for rebuttal and criticism.”
thusEvaṁ
when saidvutte,
Vacchagottavacchagotto
wandererparibbājako
to the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ
said thisetadavoca:
there is“atthi
question particlenu
indeedkho,
worthybho
Gotamagotama,
anykoci
laypersongihī
the fetter of lay lifegihisaṁyojanaṁ
without giving upappahāya
of the bodykāyassa
at the breaking upbhedā
one who makes an end of sufferingdukkhassantakaro”ti?
there is not“Natthi
indeedkho,
Vacchavaccha,
anykoci
laypersongihī
the fetter of lay lifegihisaṁyojanaṁ
without giving upappahāya
of the bodykāyassa
at the breaking upbhedā
one who makes an end of sufferingdukkhassantakaro”ti.
When he said this, the wanderer Vacchagotta said to the Buddha, “Worthy Gotama, are there any laypeople who, without giving up the fetter of lay life, make an end of suffering when the body breaks up?” “No, Vaccha.”
is there“Atthi
butpana,
sirbho
Gotamagotama,
anykoci
laypersongihī
lay·fettergihisaṁyojanaṁ
without giving upappahāya
of the bodykāyassa
when breaking upbhedā
goes to heavensaggūpago”ti?
not“Na
indeedkho,
Vacchavaccha,
one·justekaṁyeva
hundredsataṁ
notna
twodve
hundredssatāni
notna
threetīṇi
hundredssatāni
notna
fourcattāri
hundredssatāni
notna
fivepañca
hundredssatāni,
butatha
indeedkho
much morebhiyyova
whoye
laypeoplegihī
lay·fettergihisaṁyojanaṁ
without giving upappahāya
of the bodykāyassa
when breaking upbhedā
go to heavensaggūpagā”ti.
“But are there any laypeople who, without giving up the fetter of lay life, go to heaven when the body breaks up?” “There’s not just one hundred laypeople, Vaccha, or two or three or four or five hundred, but many more than that who, without giving up the fetter of lay life, go to heaven when the body breaks up.”
there is“Atthi
indeednu
indeedkho,
worthybho
Gotamagotama,
anykoci
Ājīvaka asceticājīvako
of the bodykāyassa
at the breaking upbhedā
who makes an end of sufferingdukkhassantakaro”ti?
there is not“Natthi
indeedkho,
Vacchavaccha,
anykoci
Ājīvaka asceticājīvako
of the bodykāyassa
at the breaking upbhedā
who makes an end of sufferingdukkhassantakaro”ti.
“Worthy Gotama, are there any Ājīvaka ascetics who make an end of suffering when the body breaks up?” “No, Vaccha.”
there is“Atthi
butpana,
sirbho
Gotamagotama,
anykoci
Ājīvaka asceticājīvako
of the bodykāyassa
at breaking upbhedā
who goes to heaven?saggūpago”ti?
from here“Ito
indeedkho
soso,
Vacchavaccha,
ninety-oneekanavuto
eonkappo
which + Iyamahaṁ
recollectanussarāmi,
I do not recognizenābhijānāmi
anykañci
Ājīvaka asceticājīvakaṁ
who has gone to heavensaggūpagaṁ
exceptaññatra
oneekena;
he wassopāsi
deed·one who teacheskammavādī
action·one who teaches·quotation markerkiriyavādī”ti.
“But are there any Ājīvaka ascetics who go to heaven when the body breaks up?” “Vaccha, when I recollect the past ninety-one eons, I can’t find any Ājīvaka ascetics who have gone to heaven, except one; and he taught the efficacy of deeds and action.”
this being so“Evaṁ
(locative absolute)sante,
worthybho
Gotamagotama,
emptysuññaṁ
thataduṁ
sectarian foldtitthāyatanaṁ
even so much asantamaso
even of one who goes to heaven?saggūpagenapī”ti?
this being so“Evaṁ,
Vacchavaccha,
emptysuññaṁ
thataduṁ
sectarian foldtitthāyatanaṁ
even so much asantamaso
even of one who goes to heaven.saggūpagenapī”ti.
this he spokeIdamavoca
the Blessed Onebhagavā.
satisfiedAttamano
Vacchagottavacchagotto
wandererparibbājako
of the Blessed Onebhagavato
speechbhāsitaṁ
approvedabhinandīti.
The Discourse to Vacchagotta on the Three KnowledgesTevijjavacchasuttaṁ
finishedniṭṭhitaṁ
firstpaṭhamaṁ.
“In that case, worthy Gotama, that sectarian fold is empty even of the chance to go to heaven.” “Yes, Vaccha, that sectarian fold is empty even of the chance to go to heaven.” That is what the Buddha said. Satisfied, the wanderer Vacchagotta approved what the Buddha said.
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