With Vacchagotta on Fire · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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boundlessanantavā
the world,loko,
this aloneidameva
truthsaccaṁ
false is anything elsemoghamaññan’ti
you assert.vadesi.
What‘Kiṁ
indeednu
then,kho,
sirbho
Gotama,gotama,
thattaṁ
living principlejīvaṁ
thattaṁ
body,sarīraṁ,
this aloneidameva
truthsaccaṁ
false is anything else—moghamaññanti—
of such a viewevaṁdiṭṭhi
is the reveredbhavaṁ
Gotama?gotamo’ti
thusiti
askedpuṭṭho
beingsamāno
no‘na
indeedkho
I,ahaṁ,
Vaccha,vaccha,
of such a view—evaṁdiṭṭhi—
thattaṁ
living principlejīvaṁ
thattaṁ
body,sarīraṁ,
this aloneidameva
truthsaccaṁ
false is anything elsemoghamaññan’ti
you assert.vadesi.
What‘Kiṁ
then,pana,
sirbho
Gotama,gotama,
one thingaññaṁ
is the living principle,jīvaṁ
another thingaññaṁ
is the body,sarīraṁ,
this aloneidameva
truthsaccaṁ
false is anything else—moghamaññanti—
of such a viewevaṁdiṭṭhi
is the reveredbhavaṁ
Gotama?gotamo’ti
thusiti
askedpuṭṭho
beingsamāno
no‘na
indeedkho
I,ahaṁ,
Vaccha,vaccha,
of such a view—evaṁdiṭṭhi—
one thingaññaṁ
is the living principle,jīvaṁ
another thingaññaṁ
is the body,sarīraṁ,
this aloneidameva
truthsaccaṁ
false is anything elsemoghamaññan’ti
you assert.vadesi.
What‘Kiṁ
indeednu
then,kho,
sirbho
Gotama,gotama,
existshoti
the Tathāgatatathāgato
afterparaṁ
death,maraṇā,
this aloneidameva
truthsaccaṁ
false is anything else—moghamaññanti—
of such a viewevaṁdiṭṭhi
is the reveredbhavaṁ
Gotama?gotamo’ti
thusiti
askedpuṭṭho
beingsamāno
no‘na
indeedkho
I,ahaṁ,
Vaccha,vaccha,
of such a view—evaṁdiṭṭhi—
existshoti
the Tathāgatatathāgato
afterparaṁ
death,maraṇā,
this aloneidameva
truthsaccaṁ
false is anything elsemoghamaññan’ti
you assert.vadesi.
What‘Kiṁ
thenpana,
sirbho
Gotamagotama,
notna
ishoti
thus·gonetathāgato
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā,
this·onlyidameva
truthsaccaṁ
and other is falsemoghamaññanti—
one of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi
Masterbhavaṁ
Gotama'gotamo’ti
thusiti
askedpuṭṭho
beingsamāno
'not‘na
indeedkho
Iahaṁ,
Vacchavaccha,
one of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi—
notna
ishoti
thus·gonetathāgato
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā,
this·onlyidameva
truthsaccaṁ
and other is false'moghamaññan’ti
you sayvadesi.
What‘Kiṁ
thennu
indeedkho,
sirbho
Gotamagotama,
ishoti
andca
notna
andca
ishoti
thus·gonetathāgato
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā,
this·onlyidameva
truthsaccaṁ
and other is falsemoghamaññanti—
one of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi
Masterbhavaṁ
Gotama'gotamo’ti
thusiti
askedpuṭṭho
beingsamāno
'not‘na
indeedkho
Iahaṁ,
Vacchavaccha,
one of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi—
ishoti
andca
notna
andca
ishoti
thus·gonetathāgato
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā,
this·onlyidameva
truthsaccaṁ
and other is false'moghamaññan’ti
you sayvadesi.
What‘Kiṁ
thenpana,
sirbho
Gotamagotama,
neither isneva
ishoti
notna
notna
ishoti
thus·gonetathāgato
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā,
this·onlyidameva
truthsaccaṁ
and other is falsemoghamaññanti—
one of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi
Masterbhavaṁ
Gotama'gotamo’ti
thusiti
askedpuṭṭho
beingsamāno
'not‘na
indeedkho
Iahaṁ,
Vacchavaccha,
one of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi—
not·indeedneva
ishoti
notna
notna
ishoti
the Tathāgatatathāgato
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā,
this indeed is trueidameva
truthsaccaṁ
and everything else is wrongmoghamaññan’ti
you sayvadesi.
whatKiṁ
thenpana
sirbho
Gotamagotamo
drawbackādīnavaṁ
seeingsampassamāno
thusevaṁ
theseimāni
entirelysabbaso
convictionsdiṭṭhigatāni
you avoidanupagato”ti?
the world is eternal“‘Sassato
world-quoteloko’ti
indeedkho,
Vacchavaccha,
view·gone + thisdiṭṭhigatametaṁ
view·thicketdiṭṭhigahanaṁ
view·desertdiṭṭhikantāro
view·twistdiṭṭhivisūkaṁ
view·dodgediṭṭhivipphanditaṁ
view·fetterdiṭṭhisaṁyojanaṁ
with·sufferingsadukkhaṁ
with·distresssavighātaṁ
with·anguishsaupāyāsaṁ
with feversapariḷāhaṁ,
notna
to disillusionmentnibbidāya
notna
to dispassionvirāgāya
notna
to cessationnirodhāya
notna
to peaceupasamāya
notna
to insightabhiññāya
notna
to awakeningsambodhāya
notna
to extinguishmentnibbānāya
leadssaṁvattati.
not·eternal‘Asassato
world-quoteloko’ti
indeedkho,
Vacchavaccha
elided…pe…
the world is finite‘antavā
world-quoteloko’ti
indeedkho,
Vacchavaccha
elided…pe…
the world is infinite‘anantavā
world-quoteloko’ti
indeedkho,
Vacchavaccha
elided…pe…
that‘taṁ
lifejīvaṁ
thattaṁ
body-quotesarīran’ti
indeedkho,
Vacchavaccha
elided…pe…
different‘aññaṁ
lifejīvaṁ
differentaññaṁ
body-quotesarīran’ti
indeedkho,
Vacchavaccha
elided…pe…
exists‘hoti
the Tathāgatatathāgato
afterparaṁ
death-quotemaraṇā’ti
indeedkho,
Vacchavaccha
elided…pe…
does not exist‘na
existshoti
the Tathāgatatathāgato
afterparaṁ
death-quotemaraṇā’ti
indeedkho,
Vacchavaccha
elided…pe…
exists‘hoti
andca
notna
andca
existshoti
the Tathāgatatathāgato
afterparaṁ
death-quotemaraṇā’ti
indeedkho,
Vacchavaccha
elided…pe…
'the tathāgata‘neva
existshoti
notna
notna
existshoti
the tathāgatatathāgato
afterparaṁ
death'maraṇā’ti
indeedkho,
Vacchavaccha,
this convictiondiṭṭhigatametaṁ
a thicket of viewsdiṭṭhigahanaṁ
a wilderness of viewsdiṭṭhikantāro
a contortion of viewsdiṭṭhivisūkaṁ
a writhing of viewsdiṭṭhivipphanditaṁ
a fetter of viewsdiṭṭhisaṁyojanaṁ
with sufferingsadukkhaṁ
with distresssavighātaṁ
with troublesaupāyāsaṁ
with anguishsapariḷāhaṁ,
notna
to disenchantmentnibbidāya
notna
to dispassionvirāgāya
notna
to cessationnirodhāya
notna
to peaceupasamāya
notna
to direct knowledgeabhiññāya
notna
to awakeningsambodhāya
notna
to nibbānanibbānāya
leadssaṁvattati.
thisImaṁ
indeedkho
Iahaṁ,
Vacchavaccha,
drawbackādīnavaṁ
seeingsampassamāno
thusevaṁ
theseimāni
completelysabbaso
convictionsdiṭṭhigatāni
avoidanupagato”ti.
"Is there“Atthi
thenpana
for the worthybhoto
Gotamagotamassa
anykiñci
conviction?"diṭṭhigatan”ti?
"Conviction“Diṭṭhigatanti
indeed,kho,
Vaccha,vaccha,
this has been done away withapanītametaṁ
for the realized one.tathāgatassa.
For this has been seen,Diṭṭhañhetaṁ,
Vaccha,vaccha,
by the realized one:tathāgatena:
'such‘iti
is form,rūpaṁ,
suchiti
of formrūpassa
is the origin,samudayo,
suchiti
of formrūpassa
is the disappearance;atthaṅgamo;
suchiti
is feeling,vedanā,
suchiti
of feelingvedanāya
is the origin,samudayo,
suchiti
of feelingvedanāya
is the disappearance;atthaṅgamo;
suchiti
is perception,saññā,
suchiti
of perceptionsaññāya
is the origin,samudayo,
suchiti
of perceptionsaññāya
is the disappearance;atthaṅgamo;
suchiti
are choices,saṅkhārā,
suchiti
of choicessaṅkhārānaṁ
is the origin,samudayo,
suchiti
of choicessaṅkhārānaṁ
is the disappearance;atthaṅgamo;
suchiti
is consciousness,viññāṇaṁ,
suchiti
of consciousnessviññāṇassa
is the origin,samudayo,
suchiti
of consciousnessviññāṇassa
is the disappearance.'atthaṅgamo’ti.
ThereforeTasmā
a realized onetathāgato
of all conceivingsabbamaññitānaṁ
of all churningsabbamathitānaṁ
of all I-making, mine-making, or underlying tendency to conceitsabbaahaṅkāramamaṅkāramānānusayānaṁ
by the endingkhayā
by the fading awayvirāgā
by the cessationnirodhā
by the giving upcāgā
by the letting gopaṭinissaggā
by not graspinganupādā
is freedvimuttoti
I say."vadāmī”ti.
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