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Majjhima Nikāya 72

Aggivacchasutta

With Vacchagotta on Fire · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral

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boundlessanantavā the world,loko, this aloneidameva truthsaccaṁ false is anything elsemoghamaññan’ti you assert.vadesi.
What‘Kiṁ indeednu then,kho, sirbho Gotama,gotama, thattaṁ living principlejīvaṁ thattaṁ body,sarīraṁ, this aloneidameva truthsaccaṁ false is anything else—moghamaññanti—
of such a viewevaṁdiṭṭhi is the reveredbhavaṁ Gotama?gotamo’ti thusiti askedpuṭṭho beingsamāno no‘na indeedkho I,ahaṁ, Vaccha,vaccha, of such a view—evaṁdiṭṭhi—
thattaṁ living principlejīvaṁ thattaṁ body,sarīraṁ, this aloneidameva truthsaccaṁ false is anything elsemoghamaññan’ti you assert.vadesi.
What‘Kiṁ then,pana, sirbho Gotama,gotama, one thingaññaṁ is the living principle,jīvaṁ another thingaññaṁ is the body,sarīraṁ, this aloneidameva truthsaccaṁ false is anything else—moghamaññanti—
of such a viewevaṁdiṭṭhi is the reveredbhavaṁ Gotama?gotamo’ti thusiti askedpuṭṭho beingsamāno no‘na indeedkho I,ahaṁ, Vaccha,vaccha, of such a view—evaṁdiṭṭhi—
one thingaññaṁ is the living principle,jīvaṁ another thingaññaṁ is the body,sarīraṁ, this aloneidameva truthsaccaṁ false is anything elsemoghamaññan’ti you assert.vadesi.
What‘Kiṁ indeednu then,kho, sirbho Gotama,gotama, existshoti the Tathāgatatathāgato afterparaṁ death,maraṇā, this aloneidameva truthsaccaṁ false is anything else—moghamaññanti—
of such a viewevaṁdiṭṭhi is the reveredbhavaṁ Gotama?gotamo’ti thusiti askedpuṭṭho beingsamāno no‘na indeedkho I,ahaṁ, Vaccha,vaccha, of such a view—evaṁdiṭṭhi—
existshoti the Tathāgatatathāgato afterparaṁ death,maraṇā, this aloneidameva truthsaccaṁ false is anything elsemoghamaññan’ti you assert.vadesi.

What‘Kiṁ thenpana, sirbho Gotamagotama, notna ishoti the Tathāgatatathāgato afterparaṁ deathmaraṇā, this onlyidameva truthsaccaṁ and other is falsemoghamaññanti—
one of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi Masterbhavaṁ Gotama'gotamo’ti thusiti askedpuṭṭho beingsamāno 'not‘na indeedkho Iahaṁ, Vacchavaccha, one of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi—
notna ishoti the Tathāgatatathāgato afterparaṁ deathmaraṇā, this onlyidameva truthsaccaṁ and other is false'moghamaññan’ti you sayvadesi.
What‘Kiṁ thennu indeedkho, sirbho Gotamagotama, ishoti andca notna andca ishoti the Tathāgatatathāgato afterparaṁ deathmaraṇā, this onlyidameva truthsaccaṁ and other is falsemoghamaññanti—
one of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi Masterbhavaṁ Gotama'gotamo’ti thusiti askedpuṭṭho beingsamāno 'not‘na indeedkho Iahaṁ, Vacchavaccha, one of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi—
ishoti andca notna andca ishoti the Tathāgatatathāgato afterparaṁ deathmaraṇā, this onlyidameva truthsaccaṁ and other is false'moghamaññan’ti you sayvadesi.
What‘Kiṁ thenpana, sirbho Gotamagotama, neither isneva ishoti notna notna ishoti the Tathāgatatathāgato afterparaṁ deathmaraṇā, this onlyidameva truthsaccaṁ and other is falsemoghamaññanti—
one of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi Masterbhavaṁ Gotama'gotamo’ti thusiti askedpuṭṭho beingsamāno 'not‘na indeedkho Iahaṁ, Vacchavaccha, one of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi—

is notneva ishoti notna notna ishoti the Tathāgatatathāgato afterparaṁ deathmaraṇā, this indeed is trueidameva truthsaccaṁ and everything else is wrongmoghamaññan’ti you sayvadesi.
whatKiṁ thenpana sirbho Gotamagotamo drawbackādīnavaṁ seeingsampassamāno thusevaṁ theseimāni entirelysabbaso convictionsdiṭṭhigatāni you avoidanupagato”ti?

the world is eternal“‘Sassato world-quoteloko’ti indeedkho, Vacchavaccha, this is a viewdiṭṭhigatametaṁ thicket of viewsdiṭṭhigahanaṁ desert of viewsdiṭṭhikantāro twist of viewsdiṭṭhivisūkaṁ dodge of viewsdiṭṭhivipphanditaṁ fetter of viewsdiṭṭhisaṁyojanaṁ with sufferingsadukkhaṁ with distresssavighātaṁ with anguishsaupāyāsaṁ with feversapariḷāhaṁ, notna to disillusionmentnibbidāya notna to dispassionvirāgāya notna to cessationnirodhāya notna to peaceupasamāya notna to insightabhiññāya notna to awakeningsambodhāya notna to extinguishmentnibbānāya leadssaṁvattati.
the world is not eternal‘Asassato world-quoteloko’ti indeedkho, Vacchavaccha elided…pe…
the world is finite‘antavā world-quoteloko’ti indeedkho, Vacchavaccha elided…pe…
the world is infinite‘anantavā world-quoteloko’ti indeedkho, Vacchavaccha elided…pe…
that‘taṁ lifejīvaṁ thattaṁ body-quotesarīran’ti indeedkho, Vacchavaccha elided…pe…
different‘aññaṁ lifejīvaṁ differentaññaṁ body-quotesarīran’ti indeedkho, Vacchavaccha elided…pe…
exists‘hoti the Tathāgatatathāgato afterparaṁ death-quotemaraṇā’ti indeedkho, Vacchavaccha elided…pe…
does not exist‘na existshoti the Tathāgatatathāgato afterparaṁ death-quotemaraṇā’ti indeedkho, Vacchavaccha elided…pe…
exists‘hoti andca notna andca existshoti the Tathāgatatathāgato afterparaṁ death-quotemaraṇā’ti indeedkho, Vacchavaccha elided…pe…

'the tathāgata‘neva existshoti notna notna existshoti the tathāgatatathāgato afterparaṁ death'maraṇā’ti indeedkho, Vacchavaccha, this convictiondiṭṭhigatametaṁ a thicket of viewsdiṭṭhigahanaṁ a wilderness of viewsdiṭṭhikantāro a contortion of viewsdiṭṭhivisūkaṁ a writhing of viewsdiṭṭhivipphanditaṁ a fetter of viewsdiṭṭhisaṁyojanaṁ with sufferingsadukkhaṁ with distresssavighātaṁ with troublesaupāyāsaṁ with anguishsapariḷāhaṁ, notna to disenchantmentnibbidāya notna to dispassionvirāgāya notna to cessationnirodhāya notna to peaceupasamāya notna to direct knowledgeabhiññāya notna to awakeningsambodhāya notna to nibbānanibbānāya leadssaṁvattati.
thisImaṁ indeedkho Iahaṁ, Vacchavaccha, drawbackādīnavaṁ seeingsampassamāno thusevaṁ theseimāni completelysabbaso convictionsdiṭṭhigatāni avoidanupagato”ti.

"Is there“Atthi thenpana for the worthybhoto Gotamagotamassa anykiñci conviction?"diṭṭhigatan”ti?
"Conviction“Diṭṭhigatanti indeed,kho, Vaccha,vaccha, this has been done away withapanītametaṁ for the realized one.tathāgatassa.
For this has been seen,Diṭṭhañhetaṁ, Vaccha,vaccha, by the realized one:tathāgatena:
'such‘iti is form,rūpaṁ, suchiti of formrūpassa is the origin,samudayo, suchiti of formrūpassa is the disappearance;atthaṅgamo;
suchiti is feeling,vedanā, suchiti of feelingvedanāya is the origin,samudayo, suchiti of feelingvedanāya is the disappearance;atthaṅgamo;
suchiti is perception,saññā, suchiti of perceptionsaññāya is the origin,samudayo, suchiti of perceptionsaññāya is the disappearance;atthaṅgamo;
suchiti are choices,saṅkhārā, suchiti of choicessaṅkhārānaṁ is the origin,samudayo, suchiti of choicessaṅkhārānaṁ is the disappearance;atthaṅgamo;
suchiti is consciousness,viññāṇaṁ, suchiti of consciousnessviññāṇassa is the origin,samudayo, suchiti of consciousnessviññāṇassa is the disappearance.'atthaṅgamo’ti.
ThereforeTasmā a realized onetathāgato of all conceivingsabbamaññitānaṁ of all churningsabbamathitānaṁ of all I-making, mine-making, or underlying tendency to conceitsabbaahaṅkāramamaṅkāramānānusayānaṁ by the endingkhayā by the fading awayvirāgā by the cessationnirodhā by the giving upcāgā by the letting gopaṭinissaggā by not graspinganupādā is freedvimuttoti I say."vadāmī”ti.

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