Aggivacchasutta

Majjhima Nikāya 72

With Vacchagotta on Fire · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral

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soEvaṁ by meme heardsutaṁ—
oneekaṁ timesamayaṁ the Buddhabhagavā near Sāvatthīsāvatthiyaṁ was stayingviharati in Jeta's Grovejetavane of Anāthapiṇḍikaanāthapiṇḍikassa monasteryārāme.

So I have heard. At one time the Buddha was staying near Sāvatthī in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s monastery.

thenAtha indeedkho Vacchagottavacchagotto wandererparibbājako whereyena the Blessed Onebhagavā he approached himtenupasaṅkami; having approachedupasaṅkamitvā with the Blessed Onebhagavatā withsaddhiṁ he exchanged greetingssammodi.
greetingSammodanīyaṁ talkkathaṁ politesāraṇīyaṁ having exchangedvītisāretvā to one sideekamantaṁ he sat downnisīdi. to one sideEkamantaṁ seatednisinno indeedkho Vacchagottavacchagotto wandererparibbājako to the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ he said thisetadavoca:

Then the wanderer Vacchagotta went up to the Buddha and exchanged greetings with him. When the greetings and polite conversation were over, he sat down to one side and said to the Buddha:

what?“Kiṁ thennu indeedkho, worthybho Gotamagotama, eternal‘sassato the cosmosloko, this onlyidameva truthsaccaṁ anything else is futilemoghamaññan’ti—
of such a viewevaṁdiṭṭhi worthybhavaṁ Gotama?gotamo”ti?
not“Na indeedkho Iahaṁ, Vacchavaccha, of such a viewevaṁdiṭṭhi:
eternal‘sassato the cosmosloko, this onlyidameva truthsaccaṁ anything else is futilemoghamaññan’”ti.

“Worthy Gotama, is this your view: ‘The cosmos is eternal. This is the only truth, anything else is futile’?” “That’s not my view, Vaccha.”

what“Kiṁ thenpana, sirbho Gotamagotama, not eternal‘asassato cosmosloko, this onlyidameva truthsaccaṁ anything else is futilemoghamaññan’ti—
of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi the venerablebhavaṁ Gotamagotamo”ti?
not“Na indeedkho Iahaṁ, Vacchavaccha, of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi:
not eternal‘asassato cosmosloko, this onlyidameva truthsaccaṁ anything else is futilemoghamaññan’”ti.

“Then is this your view: ‘The cosmos is not eternal. This is the only truth, anything else is futile’?” “That’s not my view, Vaccha.”

"What“Kiṁ thennu indeed,kho, goodbho Gotama,gotama, 'finite‘antavā the cosmos,loko, this onlyidameva truth,saccaṁ anything else is futile'moghamaññan’ti—
of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi Masterbhavaṁ Gotama?"gotamo”ti?
"Not“Na indeedkho I,ahaṁ, Vaccha,vaccha, of such view:evaṁdiṭṭhi:
'the cosmos is finite.‘antavā The cosmos is finite.loko, This is the only truth,idameva truth,saccaṁ anything else is futile.'"moghamaññan’”ti.

“Then is this your view: ‘The cosmos is finite. This is the only truth, anything else is futile’?” “That’s not my view, Vaccha.”

what“Kiṁ thenpana, sirbho Gotamagotama, infinite‘anantavā worldloko, this onlyidameva truthsaccaṁ futilemoghamaññan’ti—
of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi masterbhavaṁ Gotamagotamo”ti?
not“Na indeedkho Iahaṁ, Vacchavaccha, of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi:
infinite‘anantavā worldloko, this onlyidameva truthsaccaṁ futilemoghamaññan’”ti.

“Then is this your view: ‘The cosmos is infinite. This is the only truth, anything else is futile’?” “That’s not my view, Vaccha.”

what?“Kiṁ thennu indeedkho, sirbho Gotamagotama, the‘taṁ souljīvaṁ thetaṁ bodysarīraṁ, this veryidameva truthsaccaṁ futile, anything elsemoghamaññan’ti—
of such a viewevaṁdiṭṭhi the reverendbhavaṁ Gotama?gotamo”ti?
not“Na indeedkho Iahaṁ, Vacchavaccha, of such a viewevaṁdiṭṭhi:
the‘taṁ souljīvaṁ thetaṁ bodysarīraṁ, this veryidameva truthsaccaṁ futile, anything elsemoghamaññan’”ti.

“Then is this your view: ‘The soul and the body are one and the same. This is the only truth, anything else is futile’?” “That’s not my view, Vaccha.”

what“Kiṁ thenpana, sirbho Gotamagotama, one thing‘aññaṁ souljīvaṁ anotheraññaṁ bodysarīraṁ, this veryidameva truthsaccaṁ futile is anything elsemoghamaññan’ti—
of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi reveredbhavaṁ Gotamagotamo”ti?
not“Na indeedkho Iahaṁ, Vacchavaccha, of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi:
one thing‘aññaṁ souljīvaṁ anotheraññaṁ bodysarīraṁ, this veryidameva truthsaccaṁ futile is anything elsemoghamaññan’”ti.

“Then is this your view: ‘The soul is one thing, the body another. This is the only truth, anything else is futile’?” “That’s not my view, Vaccha.”

what“Kiṁ nownu indeedkho, sirbho Gotamagotama, exists‘hoti the realized onetathāgato afterparaṁ deathmaraṇā, this onlyidameva truthsaccaṁ anything else is futilemoghamaññan’ti—
of such a viewevaṁdiṭṭhi masterbhavaṁ Gotamagotamo”ti?
not“Na indeedkho Iahaṁ, Vacchavaccha, of such a viewevaṁdiṭṭhi:
exists‘hoti the realized onetathāgato afterparaṁ deathmaraṇā, this onlyidameva truthsaccaṁ anything else is futilemoghamaññan’”ti.

“Then is this your view: ‘A realized one still exists after death. This is the only truth, anything else is futile’?” “That’s not my view, Vaccha.”

what“Kiṁ thenpana, sirbho Gotamagotama, not‘na existshoti realized onetathāgato afterparaṁ deathmaraṇā, this onlyidameva truthsaccaṁ anything else is futilemoghamaññan’ti—
such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi masterbhavaṁ Gotamagotamo”ti?
not“Na indeedkho Iahaṁ, Vacchavaccha, such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi:
not‘na existshoti realized onetathāgato afterparaṁ deathmaraṇā, this onlyidameva truthsaccaṁ anything else is futilemoghamaññan’”ti.

“Then is this your view: ‘A realized one no longer exists after death. This is the only truth, anything else is futile’?” “That’s not my view, Vaccha.”

what“Kiṁ nownu indeedkho, goodbho Gotamagotama, exists‘hoti andca notna andca existshoti tathāgatatathāgato afterparaṁ deathmaraṇā, this veryidameva truthsaccaṁ anything else is futilemoghamaññan’ti—
of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi reveredbhavaṁ Gotamagotamo”ti?
not“Na indeedkho Iahaṁ, Vacchavaccha, of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi:
exists‘hoti andca notna andca existshoti tathāgatatathāgato afterparaṁ deathmaraṇā, this veryidameva truthsaccaṁ anything else is futilemoghamaññan’”ti.

“Then is this your view: ‘A realized one both still exists and no longer exists after death. This is the only truth, anything else is futile’?” “That’s not my view, Vaccha.”

what“Kiṁ thenpana, sirbho Gotamagotama, neither‘neva existshoti notna notna existshoti realized onetathāgato afterparaṁ deathmaraṇā, this veryidameva truthsaccaṁ anything else is futilemoghamaññan’ti—
thus-viewedevaṁdiṭṭhi Masterbhavaṁ Gotamagotamo”ti?
not“Na indeedkho Iahaṁ, Vacchavaccha, thus-viewedevaṁdiṭṭhi:
neither‘neva existshoti notna notna existshoti realized onetathāgato afterparaṁ deathmaraṇā, this veryidameva truthsaccaṁ anything else is futilemoghamaññan’”ti.

“Then is this your view: ‘A realized one neither still exists nor no longer exists after death. This is the only truth, anything else is futile’?” “That’s not my view, Vaccha.”

“Worthy Gotama, when asked these ten questions, you say: ‘That’s not my view.’

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