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Majjhima Nikāya 72

Aggivacchasutta

With Vacchagotta on Fire · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral

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soEvaṁ by meme heardsutaṁ—
oneekaṁ timesamayaṁ the Buddhabhagavā near Sāvatthīsāvatthiyaṁ was stayingviharati in Jeta's Grovejetavane of Anāthapiṇḍikaanāthapiṇḍikassa monasteryārāme.

thenAtha indeedkho Vacchagottavacchagotto wandererparibbājako whereyena the Blessed Onebhagavā he approached himtenupasaṅkami; having approachedupasaṅkamitvā with the Blessed Onebhagavatā withsaddhiṁ he exchanged greetingssammodi.
greetingSammodanīyaṁ talkkathaṁ politesāraṇīyaṁ having exchangedvītisāretvā to one sideekamantaṁ he sat downnisīdi. to one sideEkamantaṁ seatednisinno indeedkho Vacchagottavacchagotto wandererparibbājako to the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ he said thisetadavoca:

what?“Kiṁ thennu indeedkho, worthybho Gotamagotama, eternal‘sassato the cosmosloko, this onlyidameva truthsaccaṁ anything else is futilemoghamaññan’ti—
of such a viewevaṁdiṭṭhi worthybhavaṁ Gotama?gotamo”ti?
not“Na indeedkho Iahaṁ, Vacchavaccha, of such a viewevaṁdiṭṭhi:
eternal‘sassato the cosmosloko, this onlyidameva truthsaccaṁ anything else is futilemoghamaññan’”ti.

what“Kiṁ thenpana, sirbho Gotamagotama, not eternal‘asassato cosmosloko, this onlyidameva truthsaccaṁ anything else is futilemoghamaññan’ti—
of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi the venerablebhavaṁ Gotamagotamo”ti?
not“Na indeedkho Iahaṁ, Vacchavaccha, of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi:
not eternal‘asassato cosmosloko, this onlyidameva truthsaccaṁ anything else is futilemoghamaññan’”ti.

"What“Kiṁ thennu indeed,kho, goodbho Gotama,gotama, 'finite‘antavā the cosmos,loko, this onlyidameva truth,saccaṁ anything else is futile'moghamaññan’ti—
of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi Masterbhavaṁ Gotama?"gotamo”ti?
"Not“Na indeedkho I,ahaṁ, Vaccha,vaccha, of such view:evaṁdiṭṭhi:
'the cosmos is finite.‘antavā The cosmos is finite.loko, This is the only truth,idameva truth,saccaṁ anything else is futile.'"moghamaññan’”ti.

what“Kiṁ thenpana, sirbho Gotamagotama, infinite‘anantavā worldloko, this onlyidameva truthsaccaṁ futilemoghamaññan’ti—
of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi masterbhavaṁ Gotamagotamo”ti?
not“Na indeedkho Iahaṁ, Vacchavaccha, of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi:
infinite‘anantavā worldloko, this onlyidameva truthsaccaṁ futilemoghamaññan’”ti.

what?“Kiṁ thennu indeedkho, sirbho Gotamagotama, the‘taṁ souljīvaṁ thetaṁ bodysarīraṁ, this veryidameva truthsaccaṁ futile, anything elsemoghamaññan’ti—
of such a viewevaṁdiṭṭhi the reverendbhavaṁ Gotama?gotamo”ti?
not“Na indeedkho Iahaṁ, Vacchavaccha, of such a viewevaṁdiṭṭhi:
the‘taṁ souljīvaṁ thetaṁ bodysarīraṁ, this veryidameva truthsaccaṁ futile, anything elsemoghamaññan’”ti.

what“Kiṁ thenpana, sirbho Gotamagotama, one thing‘aññaṁ souljīvaṁ anotheraññaṁ bodysarīraṁ, this veryidameva truthsaccaṁ futile is anything elsemoghamaññan’ti—
of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi reveredbhavaṁ Gotamagotamo”ti?
not“Na indeedkho Iahaṁ, Vacchavaccha, of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi:
one thing‘aññaṁ souljīvaṁ anotheraññaṁ bodysarīraṁ, this veryidameva truthsaccaṁ futile is anything elsemoghamaññan’”ti.

what“Kiṁ nownu indeedkho, sirbho Gotamagotama, exists‘hoti the realized onetathāgato afterparaṁ deathmaraṇā, this onlyidameva truthsaccaṁ anything else is futilemoghamaññan’ti—
of such a viewevaṁdiṭṭhi masterbhavaṁ Gotamagotamo”ti?
not“Na indeedkho Iahaṁ, Vacchavaccha, of such a viewevaṁdiṭṭhi:
exists‘hoti the realized onetathāgato afterparaṁ deathmaraṇā, this onlyidameva truthsaccaṁ anything else is futilemoghamaññan’”ti.

what“Kiṁ thenpana, sirbho Gotamagotama, not‘na existshoti realized onetathāgato afterparaṁ deathmaraṇā, this onlyidameva truthsaccaṁ anything else is futilemoghamaññan’ti—
such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi masterbhavaṁ Gotamagotamo”ti?
not“Na indeedkho Iahaṁ, Vacchavaccha, such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi:
not‘na existshoti realized onetathāgato afterparaṁ deathmaraṇā, this onlyidameva truthsaccaṁ anything else is futilemoghamaññan’”ti.

what“Kiṁ nownu indeedkho, goodbho Gotamagotama, exists‘hoti andca notna andca existshoti tathāgatatathāgato afterparaṁ deathmaraṇā, this veryidameva truthsaccaṁ anything else is futilemoghamaññan’ti—
of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi reveredbhavaṁ Gotamagotamo”ti?
not“Na indeedkho Iahaṁ, Vacchavaccha, of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi:
exists‘hoti andca notna andca existshoti tathāgatatathāgato afterparaṁ deathmaraṇā, this veryidameva truthsaccaṁ anything else is futilemoghamaññan’”ti.

what“Kiṁ thenpana, sirbho Gotamagotama, neither‘neva existshoti notna notna existshoti realized onetathāgato afterparaṁ deathmaraṇā, this veryidameva truthsaccaṁ anything else is futilemoghamaññan’ti—
thus-viewedevaṁdiṭṭhi Masterbhavaṁ Gotamagotamo”ti?
not“Na indeedkho Iahaṁ, Vacchavaccha, thus-viewedevaṁdiṭṭhi:
neither‘neva existshoti notna notna existshoti realized onetathāgato afterparaṁ deathmaraṇā, this veryidameva truthsaccaṁ anything else is futilemoghamaññan’”ti.

what?“‘Kiṁ thennu indeedkho, sirbho Gotamagotama, eternalsassato worldloko, this aloneidameva truthsaccaṁ whatever else is delusionmoghamaññanti—
such is the viewevaṁdiṭṭhi worthybhavaṁ Gotamagotamo’ti thusiti askedpuṭṭho beingsamāno not‘na indeedkho Iahaṁ, Vacchavaccha, such is the viewevaṁdiṭṭhi—
eternalsassato worldloko, this aloneidameva truthsaccaṁ whatever else is delusionmoghamaññan’ti you sayvadesi.
what?‘Kiṁ thenpana, sirbho Gotamagotama, non-eternalasassato worldloko, this aloneidameva truthsaccaṁ whatever else is delusionmoghamaññanti—
such is the viewevaṁdiṭṭhi worthybhavaṁ Gotamagotamo’ti thusiti askedpuṭṭho beingsamāno not‘na indeedkho Iahaṁ, Vacchavaccha, such is the viewevaṁdiṭṭhi—
non-eternalasassato worldloko, this aloneidameva truthsaccaṁ whatever else is delusionmoghamaññan’ti you sayvadesi.
what?‘Kiṁ particlenu indeedkho, sirbho Gotamagotama, finiteantavā worldloko, this aloneidameva truthsaccaṁ whatever else is delusionmoghamaññanti—
such is the viewevaṁdiṭṭhi worthybhavaṁ Gotamagotamo’ti thusiti askedpuṭṭho beingsamāno not‘na indeedkho Iahaṁ, Vacchavaccha, such is the viewevaṁdiṭṭhi—
finiteantavā worldloko, this aloneidameva truthsaccaṁ whatever else is delusionmoghamaññan’ti you sayvadesi.
what?‘Kiṁ particlepana, sirbho Gotamagotama, infiniteanantavā worldloko, this aloneidameva truthsaccaṁ whatever else is delusionmoghamaññanti—
such is the viewevaṁdiṭṭhi worthybhavaṁ Gotamagotamo’ti thusiti askedpuṭṭho beingsamāno not‘na indeedkho Iahaṁ, Vacchavaccha, such is the viewevaṁdiṭṭhi—

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