The Longer Discourse with Sakuludāyī · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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thusEvaṁ
by meme
heardsutaṁ—
oneekaṁ
timesamayaṁ
the Blessed Onebhagavā
at Rājagaharājagahe
was stayingviharati
in the Bamboo Groveveḷuvane
at the squirrels’ feeding groundkalandakanivāpe.
So I have heard. At one time the Buddha was staying near Rājagaha in the Bamboo Grove, the squirrels’ feeding ground.
at thatTena
nowkho
thenpana
at the timesamayena
severalsambahulā
well-knownabhiññātā
well-knownabhiññātā
wanderersparibbājakā
in the peacocks’ feeding groundmoranivāpe
in the wanderers’ monasteryparibbājakārāme
were residingpaṭivasanti,
that is to sayseyyathidaṁ—
Annabhāraannabhāro
Varadharavaradharo
Sakuludāyīsakuludāyī
andca
the wandererparibbājako
otheraññe
andca
well-knownabhiññātā
well-knownabhiññātā
wanderersparibbājakā.
Now at that time several very well-known wanderers were residing in their monastery in the peacocks’ feeding ground. They included Annabhāra, Varadhara, Sakuludāyī, and other very well-known wanderers.
thenAtha
indeedkho
the Blessed Onebhagavā
in the morningpubbaṇhasamayaṁ
having robed upnivāsetvā
taking his bowl and robepattacīvaramādāya
Rājagaharājagahaṁ
for almspiṇḍāya
enteredpāvisi.
thenAtha
indeedkho
to the Blessed Onebhagavato
this occurredetadahosi:
too early“atippago
indeedkho
stilltāva
in Rājagaharājagahe
for almspiṇḍāya
to wandercarituṁ.
why don't IYannūnāhaṁ
whereyena
the peacocks' feeding groundmoranivāpo
the wanderers' monasteryparibbājakārāmo
whereyena
Sakuludāyīsakuludāyī
the wandererparibbājako
I should approach him theretenupasaṅkameyyan”ti.
Then the Buddha robed up in the morning and, taking his bowl and robe, entered Rājagaha for alms. Then it occurred to him, “It’s too early to wander for alms in Rājagaha. Why don’t I visit the wanderer Sakuludāyī at the monastery for the wanderers in the peacocks’ feeding ground?”
thenAtha
indeedkho
the Blessed Onebhagavā
to whereyena
the peacock feeding groundmoranivāpo
the wanderers' monasteryparibbājakārāmo
he approached ittenupasaṅkami.
at thatTena
indeedkho
thenpana
timesamayena
Sakuludāyīsakuludāyī
wandererparibbājako
largemahatiyā
wanderer assemblyparibbājakaparisāya
together withsaddhiṁ
seatednisinno
washoti
noisyunnādiniyā
colossal racketuccāsaddamahāsaddāya
of various kindsanekavihitaṁ
low talktiracchānakathaṁ
engaging inkathentiyā,
that is to sayseyyathidaṁ—
talk about kingsrājakathaṁ
talk about banditscorakathaṁ
talk about chief ministersmahāmattakathaṁ
talk about armiessenākathaṁ
talk about threatsbhayakathaṁ
talk about warsyuddhakathaṁ
talk about foodannakathaṁ
talk about drinkpānakathaṁ
talk about clothesvatthakathaṁ
talk about bedssayanakathaṁ
talk about garlandsmālākathaṁ
talk about fragrancesgandhakathaṁ
talk about familyñātikathaṁ
talk about vehiclesyānakathaṁ
talk about villagesgāmakathaṁ
talk about market townsnigamakathaṁ
talk about citiesnagarakathaṁ
talk about countriesjanapadakathaṁ
talk about womenitthikathaṁ
talk about heroessūrakathaṁ
talk at the street marketvisikhākathaṁ
talk about the water pot placekumbhaṭṭhānakathaṁ
talk about the departedpubbapetakathaṁ
motley talknānattakathaṁ
tales of landlokakkhāyikaṁ
tales of seasamuddakkhāyikaṁ
talk about being reborn in this or that placeitibhavābhavakathaṁ
thusiti
orvā.
sawAddasā
indeedkho
Sakuludāyīsakuludāyī
wandererparibbājako
the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ
from afardūratova
comingāgacchantaṁ.
having seenDisvāna
his ownsakaṁ
assemblyparisaṁ
hushedsaṇṭhāpeti:
be quiet“appasaddā
good fellowsbhonto
let behontu;
do notmā
good fellowsbhonto
make a soundsaddamakattha.
thisAyaṁ
asceticsamaṇo
Gotamagotamo
comesāgacchati;
likes quietappasaddakāmo
indeedkho
thenpana
heso
venerableāyasmā
of quietappasaddassa
praisingvaṇṇavādī.
hopefullyAppeva
indeednāma
quietappasaddaṁ
assemblyparisaṁ
having knownviditvā
to be approachedupasaṅkamitabbaṁ
might thinkmaññeyyā”ti.
thenAtha
indeedkho
thosete
wanderersparibbājakā
silenttuṇhī
becameahesuṁ.
So the Buddha went to the monastery for the wanderers. Now at that time, Sakuludāyī was sitting together with a large assembly of wanderers making an uproar, a colossal racket. They engaged in all kinds of low talk, such as talk about kings, bandits, and chief ministers; talk about armies, threats, and wars; talk about food, drink, clothes, and beds; talk about garlands and fragrances; talk about family, vehicles, villages, towns, cities, and countries; talk about women and heroes; talk at the street market and the place for water pots; talk about the departed; motley talk; tales of land and sea; and talk about being reborn in this or that place. Sakuludāyī saw the Buddha coming off in the distance, and hushed his own assembly, “Be quiet, good fellows, don’t make a sound. Here comes the ascetic Gotama. The venerable likes quiet and praises quiet. Hopefully if he sees that our assembly is quiet he’ll see fit to approach.” Then those wanderers fell silent.
thenAtha
indeedkho
the Blessed Onebhagavā
by whichyena
Sakuludāyīsakuludāyī
the wandererparibbājako
approached himtenupasaṅkami.
thenAtha
indeedkho
Sakuludāyīsakuludāyī
the wandererparibbājako
to the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ
said thisetadavoca:
let him come“etu
indeedkho,
sirbhante,
the Blessed Onebhagavā.
welcomeSvāgataṁ,
sirbhante,
of the Blessed Onebhagavato.
for a long timeCirassaṁ
indeedkho,
sirbhante,
the Blessed Onebhagavā
thisimaṁ
took the opportunitypariyāyamakāsi
namelyyadidaṁ
for coming hereidhāgamanāya.
let him sitNisīdatu,
sirbhante,
the Blessed Onebhagavā;
this seatidamāsanaṁ
is readypaññattan”ti.
he satNisīdi
the Blessed Onebhagavā
on the preparedpaññatte
seatāsane.
Sakuludāyī alsoSakuludāyīpi
indeedkho
the wandererparibbājako
a certainaññataraṁ
lownīcaṁ
seatāsanaṁ
having takengahetvā
to one sideekamantaṁ
he satnisīdi.
to one sideEkamantaṁ
seatednisinnaṁ
indeedkho
Sakuludāyīsakuludāyiṁ
the wandererparibbājakaṁ
the Blessed Onebhagavā
said thisetadavoca:
by what“Kāya
nownuttha,
Udāyīudāyi,
nowetarahi
by talkkathāya
sitting togethersannisinnā,
whatkā
andca
thenpana
yourvo
intervening talkantarākathā
left unfinishedvippakatā”ti?
Then the Buddha approached Sakuludāyī, who said to him, “Let the Blessed One come, sir! Welcome to the Blessed One, sir! It’s been a long time since you took the opportunity to come here. Please, sir, sit down, this seat is ready.” The Buddha sat down on the seat spread out, while Sakuludāyī took a low seat and sat to one side. The Buddha said to him, “Udāyī, what were you sitting talking about just now? What conversation was left unfinished?”
let it stand“Tiṭṭhatesā,
sirbhante,
talkkathā
by whichyāya
wemayaṁ
nowetarahi
with talkkathāya
sitting togethersannisinnā.
this is notNesā,
sirbhante,
talkkathā
for the Blessed Onebhagavato
hard to obtaindullabhā
will bebhavissati
afterwards toopacchāpi
for hearingsavanāya.
previousPurimāni,
sirbhante,
daysdivasāni
more previouspurimatarāni
of those of various other religionsnānātitthiyānaṁ
of ascetics and brahminssamaṇabrāhmaṇānaṁ
in the debating hallkutūhalasālāyaṁ
of those sitting togethersannisinnānaṁ
of those assembledsannipatitānaṁ
this interim talkayamantarākathā
aroseudapādi:
fortunate‘lābhā
indeedvata,
sirbho,
of Aṅga and Magadhaaṅgamagadhānaṁ,
very well-gainedsuladdhalābhā
indeedvata,
sirbho,
of Aṅga and Magadhaaṅgamagadhānaṁ.
there theseTatrime
ascetics and brahminssamaṇabrāhmaṇā
with an ordersaṅghino
with a communitygaṇino
community teachersgaṇācariyā
well-knownñātā
famousyasassino
religious founderstitthakarā
deemed holysādhusammatā
by many peoplebahujanassa
Rājagaharājagahaṁ
rainy season residencevassāvāsaṁ
come downosaṭā.
this tooAyampi
indeedkho
Pūraṇapūraṇo
Kassapakassapo
with an ordersaṅghī
andceva
with a communitygaṇī
andca
community teachergaṇācariyo
andca
well-knownñāto
famousyasassī
religious foundertitthakaro
deemed holysādhusammato
by many peoplebahujanassa;
he toosopi
Rājagaharājagahaṁ
rainy season residencevassāvāsaṁ
come downosaṭo.
this tooAyampi
indeedkho
Makkhalimakkhali
Gosālagosālo
…pe……pe…
Ajitaajito
of the hair blanketkesakambalo
……
Pakudhapakudho
Kaccāyanakaccāyano
……
Sañjayasañjayo
Belaṭṭhiputtabelaṭṭhaputto
……
Jain asceticnigaṇṭho
Nāṭaputtanāṭaputto
with an ordersaṅghī
andceva
with a communitygaṇī
andca
community teachergaṇācariyo
andca
well-knownñāto
famousyasassī
religious foundertitthakaro
deemed holysādhusammato
by many peoplebahujanassa;
he toosopi
Rājagaharājagahaṁ
rainy season residencevassāvāsaṁ
come downosaṭo.
“Sir, leave aside what we were sitting talking about just now. It won’t be hard for you to hear about that later. Sir, a few days ago several ascetics and brahmins who follow various other religions were sitting together at the debating hall, and this discussion came up among them: ‘The people of Aṅga and Magadha are so fortunate, so very fortunate! For there are these ascetics and brahmins who lead an order and a community, and tutor a community. They’re well-known and famous religious founders, deemed holy by many people. And they have come down for the rainy season residence at Rājagaha. They include Pūraṇa Kassapa, the bamboo-staffed ascetic Gosāla, Ajita of the hair blanket, Pakudha Kaccāyana, Sañjaya Belaṭṭhiputta, and the Jain ascetic of the Ñātika clan.
this one tooAyampi
indeedkho
asceticsamaṇo
Gotamagotamo
with an ordersaṅghī
andceva
with a communitygaṇī
andca
community teachergaṇācariyo
andca
well-knownñāto
famousyasassī
religious foundertitthakaro
deemed holysādhusammato
by many peoplebahujanassa;
he toosopi
to Rājagaharājagahaṁ
for the rains residencevassāvāsaṁ
has come downosaṭo.
whoKo
thennu
indeedkho
of theseimesaṁ
venerablebhavataṁ
of ascetics and brahminssamaṇabrāhmaṇānaṁ
with orderssaṅghīnaṁ
with communitiesgaṇīnaṁ
community teachersgaṇācariyānaṁ
well-knownñātānaṁ
famousyasassinaṁ
religious founderstitthakarānaṁ
deemed holysādhusammatānaṁ
by many peoplebahujanassa
by disciplessāvakānaṁ
honoredsakkato
respectedgarukato
reveredmānito
veneratedpūjito,
and howkañca
thenpana
disciplessāvakā
having honoredsakkatvā
respectgaruṁ
having madekatvā
relying onupanissāya
do they remainviharantī’ti?
there someTatrekacce
spoke thusevamāhaṁsu:
this‘ayaṁ
indeedkho
Pūraṇapūraṇo
Kassapakassapo
with an ordersaṅghī
andceva
with a communitygaṇī
andca
community teachergaṇācariyo
andca
well-knownñāto
famousyasassī
religious foundertitthakaro
deemed holysādhusammato
by many peoplebahujanassa;
heso
andca
indeedkho
by disciplessāvakānaṁ
notna
honoredsakkato
notna
respectedgarukato
notna
reveredmānito
notna
veneratedpūjito,
notna
andca
thenpana
Pūraṇapūraṇaṁ
Kassapakassapaṁ
disciplessāvakā
having honoredsakkatvā
respectgaruṁ
having madekatvā
relying onupanissāya
do not remainviharanti.
once it happenedBhūtapubbaṁ
Pūraṇapūraṇo
Kassapakassapo
to an assembly of many hundredsanekasatāya
to an assemblyparisāya
dhammadhammaṁ
teachesdeseti.
there oneTatraññataro
of Pūraṇapūraṇassa
of Kassapakassapassa
a disciplesāvako
made a noisesaddamakāsi:
This ascetic Gotama also leads an order and a community, and tutors a community. He’s a well-known and famous religious founder, deemed holy by many people. And he too has come down for the rains residence at Rājagaha. Which of these ascetics and brahmins is honored, respected, revered, and venerated by their disciples? And how do their disciples, honoring and respecting them, remain loyal?’ Some of them said: ‘This Pūraṇa Kassapa leads an order and a community, and tutors a community. He’s a well-known and famous religious founder, deemed holy by many people. But he’s not honored, respected, revered, and venerated by his disciples. And his disciples, not honoring and respecting him, don’t remain loyal to him. Once it so happened that he was teaching an assembly of many hundreds. Then one of his disciples made a noise,
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