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Majjhima Nikāya 79

Cūḷasakuludāyisutta

The Shorter Discourse With Sakuludāyī · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral

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that“Taṁ whatkiṁ do you thinkmaññasi, Udāyīudāyi,
whichyo orvā in the dark of nightrattandhakāratimisāya a fireflykimi fireflykhajjopanako, whichyo orvā in the dark of nightrattandhakāratimisāya oil-lamp + thesetelappadīpo—imesaṁ of bothubhinnaṁ of splendorsvaṇṇānaṁ whichkatamo splendorvaṇṇo finerabhikkantataro andca more excellentpaṇītataro andcā”ti?
that which“Yvāyaṁ, sirbhante, in the dark of nightrattandhakāratimisāya oil-lamp + thistelappadīpo—ayaṁ of theseimesaṁ of bothubhinnaṁ of splendorsvaṇṇānaṁ finerabhikkantataro andca more excellentpaṇītataro andcā”ti.

that“Taṁ whatkiṁ you thinkmaññasi, Udāyīudāyi,
whichyo orvā in the dark of nightrattandhakāratimisāya an oil lamptelappadīpo, whichyo orvā in the dark of nightrattandhakāratimisāya a great mass of fire—of thesemahāaggikkhandho—imesaṁ of bothubhinnaṁ splendorsvaṇṇānaṁ whichkatamo splendorvaṇṇo finerabhikkantataro andca more excellentpaṇītataro and?"cā”ti?
which, sir,“Yvāyaṁ, sirbhante, in the dark of nightrattandhakāratimisāya a great mass of fire—thismahāaggikkhandho—ayaṁ of theseimesaṁ of bothubhinnaṁ splendorsvaṇṇānaṁ finerabhikkantataro andca more excellentpaṇītataro and."cā”ti.

that“Taṁ whatkiṁ you thinkmaññasi, Udāyīudāyi,
whichyo orvā in the dark of nightrattandhakāratimisāya a great mass of firemahāaggikkhandho, whichyā orvā of the nightrattiyā at the crack of dawnpaccūsasamayaṁ in the clearviddhe free from·cloudvigatavalāhake heavensdeve morning star + theseosadhitārakā—imesaṁ of bothubhinnaṁ of splendorsvaṇṇānaṁ whichkatamo splendorvaṇṇo finerabhikkantataro andca more excellentpaṇītataro and?cā”ti?
that which“Yvāyaṁ, sirbhante, of the nightrattiyā at the crack of dawnpaccūsasamayaṁ in the clearviddhe free from·cloudvigatavalāhake heavensdeve morning star + thisosadhitārakā—ayaṁ of theseimesaṁ of bothubhinnaṁ of splendorsvaṇṇānaṁ finerabhikkantataro andca more excellentpaṇītataro and.cā”ti.

that“Taṁ whatkiṁ you thinkmaññasi, Udāyīudāyi,
whichyā orvā of the nightrattiyā dawn·timepaccūsasamayaṁ clearviddhe free from·cloudvigatavalāhake in the heavensdeve the morning starosadhitārakā, whichyo orvā that·be·sabbathtadahuposathe on the fifteenthpannarase clearviddhe free from·cloudvigatavalāhake in the heavensdeve at midnightabhido half·night·timeaḍḍharattasamayaṁ moon + thesecando—imesaṁ of bothubhinnaṁ of splendorsvaṇṇānaṁ whichkatamo splendorvaṇṇo finerabhikkantataro andca more sublimepaṇītataro and + quotation markercā”ti?
That which,“Yvāyaṁ, sirbhante, that·be·sabbathtadahuposathe on the fifteenthpannarase clearviddhe free from·cloudvigatavalāhake in the heavensdeve at midnightabhido half·night·timeaḍḍharattasamayaṁ moon + thiscando—ayaṁ of theseimesaṁ of bothubhinnaṁ of splendorsvaṇṇānaṁ finerabhikkantataro andca more sublimepaṇītataro and + quotation markercā”ti.

that“Taṁ whatkiṁ do you thinkmaññasi, Udāyīudāyi,
whichyo orvā that·day + sabbathtadahuposathe on the fifteenthpannarase clearviddhe without·cloudvigatavalāhake in the heavensdeve at midnightabhido half·night·timeaḍḍharattasamayaṁ the mooncando, whichyo orvā of the rainy seasonvassānaṁ in the lastpacchime monthmāse autumn + timesaradasamaye clearviddhe without·cloudvigatavalāhake in the heavensdeve at middayabhido midday·timemajjhanhikasamayaṁ sun + of-thesesūriyo—imesaṁ of bothubhinnaṁ of splendorsvaṇṇānaṁ whichkatamo splendorvaṇṇo finerabhikkantataro andca more excellentpaṇītataro and?”cā”ti?
this which“Yvāyaṁ, sirbhante, of the rainy seasonvassānaṁ in the lastpacchime monthmāse autumn + timesaradasamaye clearviddhe without·cloudvigatavalāhake in the heavensdeve at middayabhido midday·timemajjhanhikasamayaṁ sun + thissūriyo—ayaṁ of theseimesaṁ of bothubhinnaṁ of splendorsvaṇṇānaṁ finerabhikkantataro andca more excellentpaṇītataro and.”cā”ti.

beyond this“Ato indeedkho by youte, Udāyīudāyi, manybahū forhi much·morebahutarā godsdevā on whomye of theseimesaṁ moon·suncandimasūriyānaṁ luminosityābhā makes no impression onnānubhonti, those + Ityāhaṁ I knowpajānāmi.
neverthelessAtha andca but Ipanāhaṁ notna I sayvadāmi:
compared with which‘yasmā splendorvaṇṇā anotherañño splendorvaṇṇo higher·moreuttaritaro orvā excellent·morepaṇītataro orvā there is notnatthī’ti.
neverthelessAtha andca butpana youtvaṁ, Udāyīudāyi, this‘yvāyaṁ splendorvaṇṇo by a fireflykiminā of a fireflykhajjopanakena inferior·morenihīnataro andca mean·morepatikiṭṭhataro andca thatso ultimateparamo splendorvaṇṇo’ti you sayvadesi, that + andtañca splendorvaṇṇaṁ notna you describepaññapesī”ti.

has cut short“Acchidaṁ the Blessed Onebhagavā the discussionkathaṁ, has cut shortacchidaṁ the Holy Onesugato the discussion.'kathan”ti.
why“Kiṁ butpana youtvaṁ, Udāyīudāyi, thusevaṁ sayvadesi:
has cut short‘acchidaṁ the Blessed Onebhagavā the discussionkathaṁ, has cut shortacchidaṁ the Holy Onesugato the discussion?'kathan’”ti?
our“Amhākaṁ, sirbhante, ownsake denominationācariyake thusevaṁ it ishoti:
this‘ayaṁ the ultimateparamo splendorvaṇṇo, thisayaṁ the ultimateparamo splendor.'vaṇṇo’ti.
weTe wemayaṁ, sirbhante, by the Blessed Onebhagavatā ownsake denominationācariyake being pursuedsamanuyuñjīyamānā being pressedsamanuggāhīyamānā together·along·speaksamanubhāsīyamānā vacuousrittā hollowtucchā mistaken.'aparaddhā”ti.

what“Kiṁ now Udāyīpanudāyi, is thereatthi of absolute happinessekantasukho worldloko, is thereatthi ground·havingākāravatī practicepaṭipadā absolute·happinessekantasukhassa worldlokassa for realizingsacchikiriyāyā”ti?
our“Amhākaṁ, sirbhante, ownsake denominationācariyake thusevaṁ it ishoti:
is there‘atthi of absolute happinessekantasukho worldloko, is thereatthi ground·havingākāravatī practicepaṭipadā absolute·happinessekantasukhassa worldlokassa for realizingsacchikiriyāyā’”ti.

which“Katamā thenpana thatsā, Udāyīudāyi, ground·possessingākāravatī practicepaṭipadā absolute·happinessekantasukhassa world'slokassa realizing·makingsacchikiriyāyā”ti?
here“Idha, sirbhante, someoneekacco killing living creaturespāṇātipātaṁ forth·give uppahāya from killing living creaturespāṇātipātā refrainingpaṭivirato ishoti, stealingadinnādānaṁ forth·give uppahāya from stealingadinnādānā refrainingpaṭivirato ishoti, in sensual pleasures·wrong·conductkāmesumicchācāraṁ forth·give uppahāya in sensual pleasures·wrong·conductkāmesumicchācārā refrainingpaṭivirato ishoti, false·speechmusāvādaṁ forth·give uppahāya false·speechmusāvādā refrainingpaṭivirato ishoti, another·one ofaññataraṁ orvā thenpana austerity·qualitytapoguṇaṁ having undertakensamādāya proceedsvattati.
thisAyaṁ indeedkho thatsā, sirbhante, ground·possessingākāravatī practicepaṭipadā absolute·happinessekantasukhassa world'slokassa realizing·makingsacchikiriyāyā”ti.

that“Taṁ whatkiṁ you thinkmaññasi, Udāyīudāyi,
in whichyasmiṁ occasionsamaye killing living creaturespāṇātipātaṁ having abandonedpahāya from killing living creaturespāṇātipātā restrainedpaṭivirato ishoti, absolutely happyekantasukhī orvā on thattasmiṁ occasionsamaye selfattā ishoti having pleasure and painsukhadukkhī or?vā”ti?
having pleasure and pain“Sukhadukkhī, venerable sirbhante”.
that“Taṁ whatkiṁ you thinkmaññasi, Udāyīudāyi,
in whichyasmiṁ occasionsamaye stealingadinnādānaṁ having abandonedpahāya from stealingadinnādānā restrainedpaṭivirato ishoti, absolutely happyekantasukhī orvā on thattasmiṁ occasionsamaye selfattā ishoti having pleasure and painsukhadukkhī or?vā”ti?
having pleasure and pain“Sukhadukkhī, venerable sirbhante”.
that“Taṁ whatkiṁ you thinkmaññasi, Udāyīudāyi, in whichyasmiṁ occasionsamaye sexual misconductkāmesumicchācāraṁ having abandonedpahāya from sexual misconductkāmesumicchācārā restrainedpaṭivirato ishoti, absolutely happyekantasukhī orvā on thattasmiṁ occasionsamaye selfattā ishoti having pleasure and painsukhadukkhī or?vā”ti?
having pleasure and pain“Sukhadukkhī, venerable sirbhante”.
that“Taṁ whatkiṁ you thinkmaññasi, Udāyīudāyi, in whichyasmiṁ occasionsamaye lyingmusāvādaṁ having abandonedpahāya from lyingmusāvādā restrainedpaṭivirato ishoti, absolutely happyekantasukhī orvā on thattasmiṁ occasionsamaye selfattā ishoti having pleasure and painsukhadukkhī or?vā”ti?
having pleasure and pain“Sukhadukkhī, venerable sirbhante”.
that“Taṁ whatkiṁ you thinkmaññasi, Udāyī,udāyi,

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