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Majjhima Nikāya 79

Cūḷasakuludāyisutta

The Shorter Discourse With Sakuludāyī · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral

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that“Taṁ whatkiṁ do you thinkmaññasi, Udāyīudāyi,
whichyo orvā in the dark of nightrattandhakāratimisāya a fireflykimi fireflykhajjopanako, whichyo orvā in the dark of nightrattandhakāratimisāya an oil lamp; of thesetelappadīpo—imesaṁ of bothubhinnaṁ of splendorsvaṇṇānaṁ whichkatamo splendorvaṇṇo finerabhikkantataro andca more excellentpaṇītataro andcā”ti?
that which“Yvāyaṁ, sirbhante, in the dark of nightrattandhakāratimisāya an oil lamp; thistelappadīpo—ayaṁ of theseimesaṁ of bothubhinnaṁ of splendorsvaṇṇānaṁ finerabhikkantataro andca more excellentpaṇītataro andcā”ti.

that“Taṁ whatkiṁ you thinkmaññasi, Udāyīudāyi,
whichyo orvā in the dark of nightrattandhakāratimisāya an oil lamptelappadīpo, whichyo orvā in the dark of nightrattandhakāratimisāya a great mass of fire—of thesemahāaggikkhandho—imesaṁ of bothubhinnaṁ splendorsvaṇṇānaṁ whichkatamo splendorvaṇṇo finerabhikkantataro andca more excellentpaṇītataro and?"cā”ti?
which, sir,“Yvāyaṁ, sirbhante, in the dark of nightrattandhakāratimisāya a great mass of fire—thismahāaggikkhandho—ayaṁ of theseimesaṁ of bothubhinnaṁ splendorsvaṇṇānaṁ finerabhikkantataro andca more excellentpaṇītataro and."cā”ti.

that“Taṁ whatkiṁ you thinkmaññasi, Udāyīudāyi,
whichyo orvā in the dark of nightrattandhakāratimisāya a great mass of firemahāaggikkhandho, whichyā orvā of the nightrattiyā at the crack of dawnpaccūsasamayaṁ in the clearviddhe cloudlessvigatavalāhake heavensdeve the morning star—of theseosadhitārakā—imesaṁ of bothubhinnaṁ of splendorsvaṇṇānaṁ whichkatamo splendorvaṇṇo finerabhikkantataro andca more excellentpaṇītataro and?cā”ti?
that which“Yvāyaṁ, sirbhante, of the nightrattiyā at the crack of dawnpaccūsasamayaṁ in the clearviddhe cloudlessvigatavalāhake heavensdeve the morning star—thisosadhitārakā—ayaṁ of theseimesaṁ of bothubhinnaṁ of splendorsvaṇṇānaṁ finerabhikkantataro andca more excellentpaṇītataro and.cā”ti.

that“Taṁ whatkiṁ you thinkmaññasi, Udāyīudāyi,
whichyā orvā of the nightrattiyā at the crack of dawnpaccūsasamayaṁ clearviddhe cloudlessvigatavalāhake in the heavensdeve the morning starosadhitārakā, whichyo orvā on the fifteenth day sabbathtadahuposathe on the fifteenthpannarase clearviddhe cloudlessvigatavalāhake in the heavensdeve at midnightabhido at midnightaḍḍharattasamayaṁ the moon—of thesecando—imesaṁ of bothubhinnaṁ of splendorsvaṇṇānaṁ whichkatamo splendorvaṇṇo finerabhikkantataro andca more sublimepaṇītataro and?”cā”ti?
That which,“Yvāyaṁ, sirbhante, on the fifteenth day sabbathtadahuposathe on the fifteenthpannarase clearviddhe cloudlessvigatavalāhake in the heavensdeve at midnightabhido at midnightaḍḍharattasamayaṁ the moon—thiscando—ayaṁ of theseimesaṁ of bothubhinnaṁ of splendorsvaṇṇānaṁ finerabhikkantataro andca more sublimepaṇītataro and.”cā”ti.

that“Taṁ whatkiṁ do you thinkmaññasi, Udāyīudāyi,
whichyo orvā on that day, on the sabbathtadahuposathe on the fifteenthpannarase clearviddhe cloudlessvigatavalāhake in the heavensdeve at midnightabhido at the midnight houraḍḍharattasamayaṁ the mooncando, whichyo orvā of the rainy seasonvassānaṁ in the lastpacchime monthmāse in autumnsaradasamaye clearviddhe cloudlessvigatavalāhake in the heavensdeve at middayabhido at the midday hourmajjhanhikasamayaṁ the sun—of thesesūriyo—imesaṁ of bothubhinnaṁ of splendorsvaṇṇānaṁ whichkatamo splendorvaṇṇo finerabhikkantataro andca more excellentpaṇītataro and?”cā”ti?
this which“Yvāyaṁ, sirbhante, of the rainy seasonvassānaṁ in the lastpacchime monthmāse in autumnsaradasamaye clearviddhe cloudlessvigatavalāhake in the heavensdeve at middayabhido at the midday hourmajjhanhikasamayaṁ the sun—thissūriyo—ayaṁ of theseimesaṁ of bothubhinnaṁ of splendorsvaṇṇānaṁ finerabhikkantataro andca more excellentpaṇītataro and.”cā”ti.

beyond this“Ato indeedkho by youte, Udāyīudāyi, manybahū forhi very manybahutarā godsdevā on whomye of theseimesaṁ of sun and mooncandimasūriyānaṁ luminosityābhā makes no impression onnānubhonti, I themtyāhaṁ I knowpajānāmi.
neverthelessAtha andca but Ipanāhaṁ notna I sayvadāmi:
compared with which‘yasmā splendorvaṇṇā anotherañño splendorvaṇṇo fineruttaritaro orvā more excellentpaṇītataro orvā there is notnatthī’ti.
neverthelessAtha andca butpana youtvaṁ, Udāyīudāyi, this‘yvāyaṁ splendorvaṇṇo by a fireflykiminā of a fireflykhajjopanakena inferiornihīnataro andca meanerpatikiṭṭhataro andca thatso ultimateparamo splendorvaṇṇo’ti you sayvadesi, and thattañca splendorvaṇṇaṁ notna you describepaññapesī”ti.

has cut short“Acchidaṁ the Blessed Onebhagavā the discussionkathaṁ, has cut shortacchidaṁ the Holy Onesugato the discussion.'kathan”ti.
why“Kiṁ butpana youtvaṁ, Udāyīudāyi, thusevaṁ sayvadesi:
has cut short‘acchidaṁ the Blessed Onebhagavā the discussionkathaṁ, has cut shortacchidaṁ the Holy Onesugato the discussion?'kathan’”ti?
our“Amhākaṁ, sirbhante, ownsake denominationācariyake thusevaṁ it ishoti:
this‘ayaṁ the ultimateparamo splendorvaṇṇo, thisayaṁ the ultimateparamo splendor.'vaṇṇo’ti.
weTe wemayaṁ, sirbhante, by the Blessed Onebhagavatā ownsake denominationācariyake being pursuedsamanuyuñjīyamānā being pressedsamanuggāhīyamānā being grilledsamanubhāsīyamānā vacuousrittā hollowtucchā mistaken.'aparaddhā”ti.

what“Kiṁ now Udāyīpanudāyi, is thereatthi of absolute happinessekantasukho worldloko, is thereatthi groundedākāravatī practicepaṭipadā of absolute happinessekantasukhassa worldlokassa for realizingsacchikiriyāyā”ti?
our“Amhākaṁ, sirbhante, ownsake denominationācariyake thusevaṁ it ishoti:
is there‘atthi of absolute happinessekantasukho worldloko, is thereatthi groundedākāravatī practicepaṭipadā of absolute happinessekantasukhassa worldlokassa for realizingsacchikiriyāyā’”ti.

which“Katamā thenpana thatsā, Udāyīudāyi, groundedākāravatī practicepaṭipadā of absolute happinessekantasukhassa world'slokassa for realizingsacchikiriyāyā”ti?
here“Idha, sirbhante, someoneekacco killing living creaturespāṇātipātaṁ having given uppahāya from killing living creaturespāṇātipātā refrainingpaṭivirato ishoti, stealingadinnādānaṁ having given uppahāya from stealingadinnādānā refrainingpaṭivirato ishoti, sexual misconductkāmesumicchācāraṁ having given uppahāya from sexual misconductkāmesumicchācārā refrainingpaṭivirato ishoti, lyingmusāvādaṁ having given uppahāya from lyingmusāvādā refrainingpaṭivirato ishoti, some kindaññataraṁ orvā thenpana mortificationtapoguṇaṁ having undertakensamādāya proceedsvattati.
thisAyaṁ indeedkho thatsā, sirbhante, groundedākāravatī practicepaṭipadā of absolute happinessekantasukhassa world'slokassa for realizingsacchikiriyāyā”ti.

that“Taṁ whatkiṁ you thinkmaññasi, Udāyīudāyi,
in whichyasmiṁ occasionsamaye killing living creaturespāṇātipātaṁ having abandonedpahāya from killing living creaturespāṇātipātā restrainedpaṭivirato ishoti, absolutely happyekantasukhī orvā on thattasmiṁ occasionsamaye selfattā ishoti having pleasure and painsukhadukkhī or?vā”ti?
having pleasure and pain“Sukhadukkhī, venerable sirbhante”.
that“Taṁ whatkiṁ you thinkmaññasi, Udāyīudāyi,
in whichyasmiṁ occasionsamaye stealingadinnādānaṁ having abandonedpahāya from stealingadinnādānā restrainedpaṭivirato ishoti, absolutely happyekantasukhī orvā on thattasmiṁ occasionsamaye selfattā ishoti having pleasure and painsukhadukkhī or?vā”ti?
having pleasure and pain“Sukhadukkhī, venerable sirbhante”.
that“Taṁ whatkiṁ you thinkmaññasi, Udāyīudāyi, in whichyasmiṁ occasionsamaye sexual misconductkāmesumicchācāraṁ having abandonedpahāya from sexual misconductkāmesumicchācārā restrainedpaṭivirato ishoti, absolutely happyekantasukhī orvā on thattasmiṁ occasionsamaye selfattā ishoti having pleasure and painsukhadukkhī or?vā”ti?
having pleasure and pain“Sukhadukkhī, venerable sirbhante”.
that“Taṁ whatkiṁ you thinkmaññasi, Udāyīudāyi, in whichyasmiṁ occasionsamaye lyingmusāvādaṁ having abandonedpahāya from lyingmusāvādā restrainedpaṭivirato ishoti, absolutely happyekantasukhī orvā on thattasmiṁ occasionsamaye selfattā ishoti having pleasure and painsukhadukkhī or?vā”ti?
having pleasure and pain“Sukhadukkhī, venerable sirbhante”.
that“Taṁ whatkiṁ you thinkmaññasi, Udāyī,udāyi,

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