With Assalāyana · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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thusEvaṁ
by meme
heardsutaṁ—
oneekaṁ
timesamayaṁ
the Blessed Onebhagavā
at Sāvatthīsāvatthiyaṁ
was stayingviharati
Jeta·grovejetavane
of Anāthapiṇḍikaanāthapiṇḍikassa
monasteryārāme.
So I have heard. At one time the Buddha was staying near Sāvatthī in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s monastery.
at that timeTena
indeedkho
nowpana
at the timesamayena
various·regionnānāverajjakānaṁ
of brahminsbrāhmaṇānaṁ
five·measurepañcamattāni
brahmin·hundredbrāhmaṇasatāni
in Sāvatthīsāvatthiyaṁ
against·dwellpaṭivasanti
some·justkenacideva
businesskaraṇīyena.
thenAtha
indeedkho
of thosetesaṁ
of brahminsbrāhmaṇānaṁ
this occurredetadahosi:
this“ayaṁ
indeedkho
asceticsamaṇo
Gotamagotamo
four·classcātuvaṇṇiṁ
purificationsuddhiṁ
advocatespaññapeti.
whoKo
nownu
indeedkho
is ablepahoti
with the asceticsamaṇena
Gotamagotamena
withsaddhiṁ
in thisasmiṁ
statementvacane
to debatepaṭimantetun”ti?
Now at that time around five hundred brahmins from abroad were residing in Sāvatthī on some business. Then those brahmins thought, “This ascetic Gotama advocates purification for all four classes. Who is capable of debating with him about this?”
by thisTena
indeedkho
thenpana
at the timesamayena
Assalāyanaassalāyano
namednāma
studentmāṇavo
in Sāvatthīsāvatthiyaṁ
down·dwellpaṭivasati
youngdaharo,
tonsuredvuttasiro,
sixteen years oldsoḷasavassuddesiko
by birthjātiyā,
of the threetiṇṇaṁ
Vedasvedānaṁ
far shore·gonepāragū
with·vocabulary·ritualsanighaṇḍukeṭubhānaṁ
with phonology and word classificationsākkharappabhedānaṁ
with testaments as fifthitihāsapañcamānaṁ,
word-by-word knowerpadako,
grammarianveyyākaraṇo,
in cosmology and the marks of a great manlokāyatamahāpurisalakkhaṇesu
well versedanavayo.
thenAtha
indeedkho
of thosetesaṁ
brahminsbrāhmaṇānaṁ
this·occurredetadahosi:
this“ayaṁ
indeedkho
Assalāyanaassalāyano
studentmāṇavo
in Sāvatthīsāvatthiyaṁ
down·dwellpaṭivasati
youngdaharo,
tonsuredvuttasiro,
sixteen years oldsoḷasavassuddesiko
by birthjātiyā,
of the threetiṇṇaṁ
Vedasvedānaṁ
far shore·gonepāragū
ellipsis…pe…
well versedanavayo.
heSo
indeedkho
is capablepahoti
with the asceticsamaṇena
Gotamagotamena
together withsaddhiṁ
in thisasmiṁ
regarding the speechvacane
against·debatepaṭimantetun”ti.
Now at that time the student Assalāyana was residing in Sāvatthī. He was young, tonsured, and sixteen years old. He had mastered the three Vedas, together with their vocabularies and ritual performance, their phonology and word classification, and the testaments as fifth. He knew them word-by-word, and their grammar. He was well versed in cosmology and the marks of a great man. Then those brahmins thought, “This Assalāyana is capable of debating with the ascetic Gotama about this.”
thenAtha
indeedkho
thosete
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
whereyena
Assalāyanaassalāyano
studentmāṇavo
went up to himtenupasaṅkamiṁsu;
up·goupasaṅkamitvā
Assalāyanaassalāyanaṁ
studentmāṇavaṁ
said thisetadavocuṁ:
this“ayaṁ,
sirbho
Assalāyanaassalāyana,
asceticsamaṇo
Gotamagotamo
four·classcātuvaṇṇiṁ
purificationsuddhiṁ
advocatespaññapeti.
let him comeEtu
worthybhavaṁ
Assalāyanaassalāyano
with the asceticsamaṇena
Gotamagotamena
withsaddhiṁ
thisasmiṁ
statementvacane
let him debatepaṭimantetū”ti.
thusEvaṁ
spokenvutte,
Assalāyanaassalāyano
studentmāṇavo
thosete
brahminsbrāhmaṇe
said thisetadavoca:
ascetic“samaṇo
indeedkhalu,
sirbho,
Gotamagotamo
speaker of principledhammavādī;
principle·speakerdhammavādino
andca
butpana
hard·against·discussduppaṭimantiyā
arebhavanti.
I am notNāhaṁ
ablesakkomi
with the asceticsamaṇena
Gotamagotamena
withsaddhiṁ
thisasmiṁ
statementvacane
to debatepaṭimantetun”ti.
for a second timeDutiyampi
indeedkho
thosete
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
Assalāyanaassalāyanaṁ
studentmāṇavaṁ
said thisetadavocuṁ:
this“ayaṁ,
sirbho
Assalāyanaassalāyana,
asceticsamaṇo
Gotamagotamo
four·classcātuvaṇṇiṁ
purificationsuddhiṁ
advocatespaññapeti.
let him comeEtu
worthybhavaṁ
Assalāyanaassalāyano
with the asceticsamaṇena
Gotamagotamena
withsaddhiṁ
thisasmiṁ
statementvacane
let him debatepaṭimantetu.
you have livedCaritaṁ
indeedkho
butpana
by the worthybhotā
Assalāyanaassalāyanena
as a wandererparibbājakan”ti.
for a second timeDutiyampi
indeedkho
Assalāyanaassalāyano
studentmāṇavo
thosete
brahminsbrāhmaṇe
said thisetadavoca:
ascetic“samaṇo
indeedkhalu,
sirbho,
Gotamagotamo
speaker of principledhammavādī;
So they approached Assalāyana and said to him, “This ascetic Gotama advocates purification for all four classes. Please, worthy Assalāyana, debate with the ascetic Gotama about this.” When they said this, Assalāyana said to them, “They say that the ascetic Gotama is a speaker of principle. But speakers of principle are hard to debate. I’m not capable of debating with the ascetic Gotama about this.” For a second time, those brahmins said to him “This ascetic Gotama advocates purification for all four classes. Please, worthy Assalāyana, debate with the ascetic Gotama about this. For you have lived as a wanderer.” And for a second time, Assalāyana refused.
principle·speakdhammavādino
andca
butpana
hard to debateduppaṭimantiyā
they arebhavanti.
I am notNāhaṁ
I am ablesakkomi
with the asceticsamaṇena
Gotamagotamena
togethersaddhiṁ
about thisasmiṁ
statementvacane
to debatepaṭimantetun”ti.
for a third timeTatiyampi
indeedkho
thosete
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
Assalāyanaassalāyanaṁ
studentmāṇavaṁ
said thisetadavocuṁ:
this“ayaṁ,
worthybho
Assalāyanaassalāyana,
asceticsamaṇo
Gotamagotamo
four·classcātuvaṇṇiṁ
purificationsuddhiṁ
advocatespaññapeti.
let him comeEtu
worthybhavaṁ
Assalāyanaassalāyano
with the asceticsamaṇena
Gotamagotamena
togethersaddhiṁ
about thisasmiṁ
statementvacane
let him debatepaṭimantetu.
you have livedCaritaṁ
indeedkho
butpana
by the worthybhotā
Assalāyanaassalāyanena
as a wandererparibbājakaṁ.
don'tMā
worthybhavaṁ
Assalāyanaassalāyano
battle + defeatayuddhaparājitaṁ
admitparājayī”ti.
thusEvaṁ
when this was saidvutte,
Assalāyanaassalāyano
studentmāṇavo
thosete
brahminsbrāhmaṇe
said thisetadavoca:
clearly“addhā
indeedkho
Iahaṁ
worthy sirsbhavanto
notna
I am getting throughlabhāmi.
asceticSamaṇo
they saykhalu,
worthybho,
Gotamagotamo
speaker of principledhammavādī;
principle·speakdhammavādino
andca
butpana
hard to debateduppaṭimantiyā
they arebhavanti.
I am notNāhaṁ
I am ablesakkomi
with the asceticsamaṇena
Gotamagotamena
togethersaddhiṁ
about thisasmiṁ
statementvacane
to debatepaṭimantetunti.
neverthelessApi
Icāhaṁ
of the worthy sirsbhavantānaṁ
at the biddingvacanena
I shall gogamissāmī”ti.
For a third time, those brahmins said to him, “This ascetic Gotama advocates purification for all four classes. Please, worthy Assalāyana, debate with the ascetic Gotama about this. For you have lived as a wanderer. Don’t admit defeat before going into battle!” When they said this, Assalāyana said to them, “Clearly, worthy sirs, I’m not getting through to you when I say: ‘They say that the ascetic Gotama is a speaker of principle. But speakers of principle are hard to debate. I’m not capable of debating with the ascetic Gotama about this.’ Nevertheless, I shall go at your bidding.”
thenAtha
indeedkho
Assalāyanaassalāyano
the brahmin studentmāṇavo
with a largemahatā
brahmin·groupbrāhmaṇagaṇena
together withsaddhiṁ
whereyena
the Blessed Onebhagavā
he approached himtenupasaṅkami;
near·goupasaṅkamitvā
with the Blessed Onebhagavatā
together withsaddhiṁ
together·rejoicesammodi.
greetingSammodanīyaṁ
conversationkathaṁ
politesāraṇīyaṁ
apart·caused to passvītisāretvā
one·sideekamantaṁ
down·sitnisīdi.
to one sideEkamantaṁ
down·seatednisinno
indeedkho
Assalāyanaassalāyano
the brahmin studentmāṇavo
to the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ
this·saidetadavoca:
brahmins“brāhmaṇā,
worthybho
Gotamagotama,
thus·they saidevamāhaṁsu:
only brahmins‘brāhmaṇova
the bestseṭṭho
classvaṇṇo,
inferiorhīno
otherañño
classvaṇṇo;
only brahminsbrāhmaṇova
the lightsukko
classvaṇṇo,
darkkaṇho
otherañño
classvaṇṇo;
only brahminsbrāhmaṇova
are purifiedsujjhanti,
notno
not·brahminabrāhmaṇā;
only brahminsbrāhmaṇāva
of the Divinitybrahmuno
sonsputtā
bosomorasā
from the mouthmukhato
bornjātā
Divinity·bornbrahmajā
Divinity·createdbrahmanimmitā
heirs of the Divinitybrahmadāyādā’ti.
hereIdha
worthybhavaṁ
Gotamagotamo
what does he saykimāhā”ti?
are seen“Dissanti
indeedkho
butpana,
Assalāyanaassalāyana,
of brahminsbrāhmaṇānaṁ
brahmin womenbrāhmaṇiyo
menstruatingutuniyopi
being pregnantgabbhiniyopi
forth·being bornvijāyamānāpi
breastfeedingpāyamānāpi.
theyTe
andca
brahmin womb·bornbrāhmaṇiyonijāva
beingsamānā
thus·they saidevamāhaṁsu:
only brahmins‘brāhmaṇova
the bestseṭṭho
classvaṇṇo,
inferiorhīno
otherañño
classvaṇṇo;
only brahminsbrāhmaṇova
the lightsukko
classvaṇṇo,
darkkaṇho
otherañño
classvaṇṇo;
only brahminsbrāhmaṇāva
are purifiedsujjhanti,
notno
not·brahminabrāhmaṇā;
only brahminsbrāhmaṇāva
of the Divinitybrahmuno
sonsputtā
bosomorasā
from the mouthmukhato
bornjātā
Divinity·bornbrahmajā
Divinity·createdbrahmanimmitā
heirs of the Divinitybrahmadāyādā’”ti.
Then Assalāyana together with a large group of brahmins went to the Buddha and exchanged greetings with him. When the greetings and polite conversation were over, he sat down to one side and said to the Buddha: “Worthy Gotama, the brahmins say: ‘Only brahmins are the best class; other classes are inferior. Only brahmins are the light class; other classes are dark. Only brahmins are purified, not others. Only brahmins are the Divinity’s bosom sons, born from his mouth, born of the Divinity, created by the Divinity, heirs of the Divinity.’ What do you say about this?” “But Assalāyana, brahmin women are seen menstruating, being pregnant, giving birth, and breastfeeding. Yet even though they’re born from a brahmin womb they say: ‘Only brahmins are the best class; other classes are inferior. Only brahmins are the light class; other classes are dark. Only brahmins are purified, not others. Only brahmins are the Divinity’s bosom sons, born from his mouth, born of the Divinity, created by the Divinity, heirs of the Divinity.’”
even though“Kiñcāpi
sirbhavaṁ
Gotamagotamo
thus·speaksevamāha,
thenatha
yet·herekhvettha
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
indeed·thisevametaṁ
they thinkmaññanti:
the brahmin is the best‘brāhmaṇova
bestseṭṭho
classvaṇṇo,
lowhīno
otherañño
classvaṇṇo
…pe……pe…
Brahmā·heirsbrahmadāyādā’”ti.
that“Taṁ
whatkiṁ
do you thinkmaññasi,
Assalāyanaassalāyana,
heardsutaṁ
by youte:
among the Greeks and Kambojans‘yonakambojesu
otheraññesu
andca
borderlandpaccantimesu
countriesjanapadesu
two·onlydveva
classes·noblevaṇṇā—ayyo
indeedceva
servantdāso
andca;
nobleayyo
having becomehutvā
servantdāso
becomeshoti,
servantdāso
having becomehutvā
nobleayyo
becomeshotī’”ti?
yes“Evaṁ,
sirbho,
heardsutaṁ
thattaṁ
by meme:
among the Greeks and Kambojans‘yonakambojesu
otheraññesu
andca
borderlandpaccantimesu
countriesjanapadesu
two·onlydveva
classes·noblevaṇṇā—ayyo
indeedceva
servantdāso
andca;
nobleayyo
having becomehutvā
servantdāso
becomeshoti,
servantdāso
having becomehutvā
nobleayyo
becomeshotī’”ti.
here“Ettha,
Assalāyanaassalāyana,
of the brahminsbrāhmaṇānaṁ
whatkiṁ
strengthbalaṁ,
whatko
assuranceassāso
that + hereyadettha
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
thus·spokeevamāhaṁsu:
the brahmin is the best‘brāhmaṇova
bestseṭṭho
classvaṇṇo,
lowhīno
otherañño
classvaṇṇo
…pe……pe…
Brahmā·heirsbrahmadāyādā’”ti?
“Even though you say this, still the brahmins maintain their belief.” “What do you think, Assalāyana? Have you heard that in Greece and Persia and other foreign lands there are only two classes, masters and bonded servants; and that masters may become servants, and servants masters?” “Yes, I have heard that.” “Then what is the source of the brahmins’ certainty and forcefulness in this matter that they make this claim?”
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