With Ghoṭamukha · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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whoYo
andca
indeedkho
thisayaṁ,
sirbho
Udenaudena,
individualpuggalo
not·just·self-mortifyingnevattantapo
not·devoted to self-mortification practicenāttaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto
norna
mortifying othersparantapo
norna
not devoted to the practice of mortifying othersparaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto
heso
not self-mortifyinganattantapo
not mortifying othersaparantapo
seen·verydiṭṭheva
in the dhammadhamme
without wishesnicchāto
quenchednibbuto
cooledsītībhūto
bliss·experiencingsukhappaṭisaṁvedī
divine·becomebrahmabhūtena
with selfattanā
dwellsviharati,
heso
self·andattānañca
other·andparañca
happiness·wantingsukhakāmaṁ
pain·recoilingdukkhapaṭikkūlaṁ
does notneva
toward·tormentsātāpeti
norna
torments othersparitāpeti;
by thisiminā
to meme
thisayaṁ
individualpuggalo
the mindcittaṁ
pleasesārādhetī”ti.
these two“Dvemā,
brahminbrāhmaṇa,
groupsparisā.
whatKatamā
two?dve?
hereIdha,
brahminbrāhmaṇa,
someekaccā
groupparisā
own·attached + obsessedsārattarattā
jewel·earringsmaṇikuṇḍalesu
child·partnerputtabhariyaṁ
around·seekspariyesati,
female-servant·male-servantdāsidāsaṁ
around·seekspariyesati,
field·landkhettavatthuṁ
around·seekspariyesati,
gold·silverjātarūparajataṁ
around·seekspariyesati.
hereIdha
andpana,
brahminbrāhmaṇa,
someekaccā
groupparisā
not·own·attached + obsessedasārattarattā
jewel·earringsmaṇikuṇḍalesu
child·partnerputtabhariyaṁ
forth·given-uppahāya,
female-servant·male-servantdāsidāsaṁ
forth·given-uppahāya,
field·landkhettavatthuṁ
forth·given-uppahāya,
gold·silverjātarūparajataṁ
forth·given-uppahāya,
from the lay lifeagārasmā
not·lay-lifeanagāriyaṁ
forth·gonepabbajitā.
that + thisSvāyaṁ,
brahminbrāhmaṇa,
individualpuggalo
not·indeed·self·mortifyingnevattantapo
not given to the practice of mortifying himselfnāttaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto
notna
other·mortifyingparantapo
notna
not given to the practice of mortifying othersparaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto.
heSo
not·self·mortifyinganattantapo
not·other·mortifyingaparantapo
seen + indeeddiṭṭheva
in the dhammadhamme
free of hungernicchāto
extinguishednibbuto
cool·becomesītībhūto
happiness·experiencingsukhappaṭisaṁvedī
divine·becomebrahmabhūtena
with a selfattanā
dwellsviharati.
hereIdha
in whichkatamaṁ
youtvaṁ,
brahminbrāhmaṇa,
individualpuggalaṁ
in whichkatamāya
groupparisāya
usuallybahulaṁ
together·along·seesamanupassasi—
whichyā
and + thiscāyaṁ
groupparisā
own·attached + obsessedsārattarattā
jewel·earringsmaṇikuṇḍalesu
child·partnerputtabhariyaṁ
around·seekspariyesati
female-servant·male-servantdāsidāsaṁ
around·seekspariyesati
field·landkhettavatthuṁ
around·seekspariyesati
gold·silverjātarūparajataṁ
around·seekspariyesati,
whichyā
and + thiscāyaṁ
groupparisā
not·own·attached + obsessedasārattarattā
jewel·earringsmaṇikuṇḍalesu
child·partnerputtabhariyaṁ
forth·given-uppahāya
female-servant·male-servantdāsidāsaṁ
forth·given-uppahāya
field·landkhettavatthuṁ
forth·given-uppahāya
gold·silverjātarūparajataṁ
forth·given-uppahāya
from the lay lifeagārasmā
not·lay-lifeanagāriyaṁ
gone-forth·quotation-markerpabbajitā”ti?
that one“Yvāyaṁ,
sirbho
Udenaudena,
individualpuggalo
not self-tormentingnevattantapo
not·devoted to self-mortificationnāttaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto
notna
tormenting othersparantapo
notna
not devoted to tormenting othersparaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto
heso
not self-tormentinganattantapo
not tormenting othersaparantapo
seen·indeeddiṭṭheva
in the Dhammadhamme
hungerlessnicchāto
quenchednibbuto
cool·becomesītībhūto
happiness·experiencingsukhappaṭisaṁvedī
brahma·becomebrahmabhūtena
with a selfattanā
he dwellsviharati;
this + Iimāhaṁ
individualpuggalaṁ
which + thisyāyaṁ
assemblyparisā
not·overly attachedasārattarattā
jewel·earringmaṇikuṇḍalesu
child·wifeputtabhariyaṁ
forth·abandonpahāya
female slave·servantdāsidāsaṁ
forth·abandonpahāya
field·landkhettavatthuṁ
forth·abandonpahāya
gold·silverjātarūparajataṁ
forth·abandonpahāya
from homeagārasmā
not·home-lifeanagāriyaṁ
go forth·gonepabbajitā
in thisimissaṁ
assemblyparisāyaṁ
abundantlybahulaṁ
I seesamanupassāmī”ti.
just now“Idāneva
indeedkho
butpana
by youte,
brahminbrāhmaṇa,
spokenbhāsitaṁ:
we‘mayaṁ
thusevaṁ
we understandājānāma—
my goodambho
asceticsamaṇa,
there is notnatthi
principleddhammiko
renunciate lifeparibbajo,
thusevaṁ
to meme
hereettha
it ishoti.
that·andTañca
indeedkho
of honorable ones such as yourselfbhavantarūpānaṁ
orvā
not seeingadassanā,
whichyo
orvā
but·herepanettha
teachingdhammo’”ti.
well“Addhā
that to memesā,
worthybho
Udenaudena,
with good reasonsānuggahā
speechvācā
spokenbhāsitā.
there is‘Atthi
principleddhammiko
renunciate lifeparibbajo’—
thusevaṁ
to meme
hereettha
it ishoti.
thus·andEvañca
butpana
memaṁ
worthybhavaṁ
Udenaudeno
may he rememberdhāretu.
whichYe
andca
by meme
by the worthybhotā
by Udenaudenena
fourcattāro
individualspuggalā
in briefsaṅkhittena
spokenvuttā
in detailvitthārena
not explainedavibhattā,
pleasesādhu
to meme
worthybhavaṁ,
Udenaudeno
theseime
fourcattāro
individualspuggale
in detailvitthārena
may he explainvibhajatu
sympathyanukampaṁ
out ofupādāyā”ti.
by that“Tena
thenhi,
brahminbrāhmaṇa,
listensuṇāhi,
wellsādhukaṁ
mindmanasi
applykarohi,
I will speakbhāsissāmī”ti.
yes“Evaṁ,
worthy sir + quotation markerbho”ti
indeedkho
Ghoṭamukhaghoṭamukho
brahminbrāhmaṇo
venerableāyasmato
Udenaudenassa
repliedpaccassosi.
venerableĀyasmā
Udenaudeno
said thisetadavoca:
what“Katamo
andca,
brahminbrāhmaṇa,
individualpuggalo
self-mortifyingattantapo
committed to the practice of mortifying themselvesattaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto?
hereIdha,
brahminbrāhmaṇa,
a certainekacco
individualpuggalo
nakedacelako
ishoti
ignoring conventionsmuttācāro
licking their handshatthāpalekhano
not coming when callednaehibhaddantiko
not waiting when callednatiṭṭhabhaddantiko,
food broughtnābhihaṭaṁ
notna
food prepared on their behalfuddissakataṁ
notna
an invitation for a mealnimantanaṁ
they consent tosādiyati.
theySo
notna
from a potkumbhimukhā
receivepaṭiggaṇhāti,
notna
from a bowlkaḷopimukhā
receivepaṭiggaṇhāti,
notna
from someone who keeps sheepeḷakamantaraṁ,
notna
from someone with a weapondaṇḍamantaraṁ,
notna
from someone with a shovelmusalamantaraṁ,
notna
of twodvinnaṁ
eatingbhuñjamānānaṁ,
notna
of one pregnantgabbhiniyā,
notna
of one breastfeedingpāyamānāya,
notna
of one living with a manpurisantaragatāya,
notna
where in dirty placessaṅkittīsu,
notna
whereyattha
a houndsā
waitingupaṭṭhito
ishoti,
notna
whereyattha
fliesmakkhikā
buzzing aroundsaṇḍasaṇḍacārinī,
notna
fishmacchaṁ
notna
meatmaṁsaṁ,
notna
beersuraṁ
notna
winemerayaṁ
notna
fermented gruelthusodakaṁ
they drinkpivati.
theySo
going to one houseekāgāriko
orvā
arehoti
taking one mouthfulekālopiko,
going to two housesdvāgāriko
orvā
arehoti
taking two mouthfulsdvālopiko
……pe…
going to seven housessattāgāriko
orvā
arehoti
taking seven mouthfulssattālopiko;
with one saucerekissāpi
of almsdattiyā
they feedyāpeti,
with two saucersdvīhipi
of almsdattīhi
they feedyāpeti
……pe…
with seven saucerssattahipi
of almsdattīhi
they feedyāpeti;
even once a dayekāhikampi
foodāhāraṁ
eatsāhāreti,
of two days·evendvīhikampi
foodāhāraṁ
eatsāhāreti
pe…pe…
of a week·evensattāhikampi
foodāhāraṁ
eats—thusāhāreti—iti
such·kindevarūpaṁ
half·monthlyaddhamāsikaṁ
committed to the practice of eating food at set intervalspariyāyabhattabhojanānuyogamanuyutto
livesviharati.
heSo
herb·eatingsākabhakkho
orvā
ishoti,
millet·eatingsāmākabhakkho
orvā
ishoti,
wild rice·eatingnīvārabhakkho
orvā
ishoti,
poor rice·eatingdaddulabhakkho
orvā
ishoti,
water lettuce·eatinghaṭabhakkho
orvā
ishoti,
rice bran·eatingkaṇabhakkho
orvā
ishoti,
scum·eatingācāmabhakkho
orvā
ishoti,
sesame flour·eatingpiññākabhakkho
orvā
ishoti,
grass·eatingtiṇabhakkho
orvā
ishoti,
cow dung·eatinggomayabhakkho
orvā
ishoti,
eating forest roots and fruitsvanamūlaphalāhāro
survivesyāpeti
eating fallen fruitpavattaphalabhojī.
heSo
sunn hemp robes·evensāṇānipi
wearsdhāreti,
mixed hemp robes·evenmasāṇānipi
wearsdhāreti,
corpse-wrapping cloth robes·evenchavadussānipi
wearsdhāreti,
rag robes·evenpaṁsukūlānipi
wearsdhāreti,
lodh bark robes·eventirīṭānipi
wearsdhāreti,
antelope hide·evenajinampi
wearsdhāreti,
antelope hide strips·evenajinakkhipampi
wearsdhāreti,
kusa grass robe·evenkusacīrampi
wearsdhāreti,
bark robe·evenvākacīrampi
wearsdhāreti,
wood-chip robe·evenphalakacīrampi
wearsdhāreti,
human hair robe·evenkesakambalampi
wearsdhāreti,
horse-tail hair robe·evenvāḷakambalampi
wearsdhāreti,
owl wing robe·evenulūkapakkhampi
wearsdhāreti;
hair-and-beard plucker·evenkesamassulocakopi
ishoti
committed to the practice of plucking hair and beardkesamassulocanānuyogamanuyutto,
stander·evenubbhaṭṭhakopi
ishoti
turning down seatsāsanapaṭikkhitto,
squatter·evenukkuṭikopi
ishoti
committed to the endeavor of squattingukkuṭikappadhānamanuyutto,
thorn-mat lie-er·evenkaṇṭakāpassayikopi
ishoti
on a mat of thornskaṇṭakāpassaye
a bedseyyaṁ
makeskappeti;
three times including dusk·evensāyatatiyakampi
committed to the practice of ritual bathingudakorohanānuyogamanuyutto
livesviharati—
thusiti
such·kindevarūpaṁ
various·kindsanekavihitaṁ
of the bodykāyassa
committed to the practice of mortifying and tormentingātāpanaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto
livesviharati.
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