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whoYo
andca
indeedkho
thisayaṁ,
sirbho
Udenaudena,
individualpuggalo
not self-mortifyingnevattantapo
not devoted to the practice of mortifying himselfnāttaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto
norna
mortifying othersparantapo
norna
not devoted to the practice of mortifying othersparaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto
heso
not self-mortifyinganattantapo
not mortifying othersaparantapo
in this very lifediṭṭheva
in the dhammadhamme
without wishesnicchāto
quenchednibbuto
cooledsītībhūto
experiencing blisssukhappaṭisaṁvedī
with self become divinebrahmabhūtena
with selfattanā
dwellsviharati,
heso
himself andattānañca
others andparañca
wanting happinesssukhakāmaṁ
recoiling from paindukkhapaṭikkūlaṁ
does notneva
tormentsātāpeti
norna
torments othersparitāpeti;
by thisiminā
to meme
thisayaṁ
individualpuggalo
the mindcittaṁ
pleasesārādhetī”ti.
these two“Dvemā,
brahminbrāhmaṇa,
groupsparisā.
whatKatamā
two?dve?
hereIdha,
brahminbrāhmaṇa,
someekaccā
groupparisā
being obsessedsārattarattā
with jeweled earringsmaṇikuṇḍalesu
partners and childrenputtabhariyaṁ
seekspariyesati,
male and female bondservantsdāsidāsaṁ
seekspariyesati,
fields and landskhettavatthuṁ
seekspariyesati,
gold and currencyjātarūparajataṁ
seekspariyesati.
hereIdha
andpana,
brahminbrāhmaṇa,
someekaccā
groupparisā
not being obsessedasārattarattā
with jeweled earringsmaṇikuṇḍalesu
partners and childrenputtabhariyaṁ
having given uppahāya,
male and female bondservantsdāsidāsaṁ
having given uppahāya,
fields and landskhettavatthuṁ
having given uppahāya,
gold and currencyjātarūparajataṁ
having given uppahāya,
from the lay lifeagārasmā
to homelessnessanagāriyaṁ
gone forthpabbajitā.
thatSvāyaṁ,
brahminbrāhmaṇa,
individualpuggalo
not himself-mortifyingnevattantapo
not given to the practice of mortifying himselfnāttaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto
notna
another-mortifyingparantapo
notna
not given to the practice of mortifying othersparaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto.
heSo
not himself-mortifyinganattantapo
not another-mortifyingaparantapo
in the present lifediṭṭheva
in the dhammadhamme
free of hungernicchāto
extinguishednibbuto
become coolsītībhūto
experiencing happinesssukhappaṭisaṁvedī
with a self become divinebrahmabhūtena
with a selfattanā
dwellsviharati.
hereIdha
in whichkatamaṁ
youtvaṁ,
brahminbrāhmaṇa,
individualpuggalaṁ
in whichkatamāya
groupparisāya
usuallybahulaṁ
do you seesamanupassasi—
whichyā
and thiscāyaṁ
groupparisā
being obsessedsārattarattā
with jeweled earringsmaṇikuṇḍalesu
partners and childrenputtabhariyaṁ
seekspariyesati
male and female bondservantsdāsidāsaṁ
seekspariyesati
fields and landskhettavatthuṁ
seekspariyesati
gold and currencyjātarūparajataṁ
seekspariyesati,
whichyā
and thiscāyaṁ
groupparisā
not being obsessedasārattarattā
with jeweled earringsmaṇikuṇḍalesu
partners and childrenputtabhariyaṁ
having given uppahāya
male and female bondservantsdāsidāsaṁ
having given uppahāya
fields and landskhettavatthuṁ
having given uppahāya
gold and currencyjātarūparajataṁ
having given uppahāya
from the lay lifeagārasmā
to homelessnessanagāriyaṁ
gone forth?pabbajitā”ti?
that one“Yvāyaṁ,
sirbho
Udenaudena,
individualpuggalo
not self-tormentingnevattantapo
not devoted to self-mortificationnāttaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto
notna
tormenting othersparantapo
notna
not devoted to tormenting othersparaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto
heso
not self-tormentinganattantapo
not tormenting othersaparantapo
in this very lifediṭṭheva
in the Dhammadhamme
hungerlessnicchāto
quenchednibbuto
become coolsītībhūto
experiencing happinesssukhappaṭisaṁvedī
with a brahma-like selfbrahmabhūtena
with a selfattanā
he dwellsviharati;
this one Iimāhaṁ
individualpuggalaṁ
thatyāyaṁ
assemblyparisā
not overly attachedasārattarattā
to jewels and earringsmaṇikuṇḍalesu
wife and childrenputtabhariyaṁ
having abandonedpahāya
slaves and servantsdāsidāsaṁ
having abandonedpahāya
fields and landkhettavatthuṁ
having abandonedpahāya
gold and silverjātarūparajataṁ
having abandonedpahāya
from homeagārasmā
to homelessnessanagāriyaṁ
gone forthpabbajitā
in thisimissaṁ
assemblyparisāyaṁ
abundantlybahulaṁ
I seesamanupassāmī”ti.
just now“Idāneva
indeedkho
butpana
by youte,
brahminbrāhmaṇa,
spokenbhāsitaṁ:
we‘mayaṁ
thusevaṁ
we understandājānāma—
my goodambho
asceticsamaṇa,
there is notnatthi
principleddhammiko
renunciate lifeparibbajo,
thusevaṁ
to meme
hereettha
it ishoti.
and thatTañca
indeedkho
of honorable ones such as yourselfbhavantarūpānaṁ
orvā
not seeingadassanā,
whichyo
orvā
but herepanettha
teachingdhammo’”ti.
well“Addhā
that to memesā,
worthybho
Udenaudena,
with good reasonsānuggahā
speechvācā
spokenbhāsitā.
there is‘Atthi
principleddhammiko
renunciate lifeparibbajo’—
thusevaṁ
to meme
hereettha
it ishoti.
and thusEvañca
butpana
memaṁ
worthybhavaṁ
Udenaudeno
may he rememberdhāretu.
whichYe
andca
by meme
by the worthybhotā
by Udenaudenena
fourcattāro
individualspuggalā
in briefsaṅkhittena
spokenvuttā
in detailvitthārena
not explainedavibhattā,
pleasesādhu
to meme
worthybhavaṁ,
Udenaudeno
theseime
fourcattāro
individualspuggale
in detailvitthārena
may he explainvibhajatu
sympathyanukampaṁ
out ofupādāyā”ti.
by that“Tena
thenhi,
brahminbrāhmaṇa,
listensuṇāhi,
wellsādhukaṁ
mindmanasi
applykarohi,
I will speakbhāsissāmī”ti.
yes“Evaṁ,
worthy sirbho”ti
indeedkho
Ghoṭamukhaghoṭamukho
brahminbrāhmaṇo
venerableāyasmato
Udenaudenassa
repliedpaccassosi.
venerableĀyasmā
Udenaudeno
said thisetadavoca:
what“Katamo
andca,
brahminbrāhmaṇa,
individualpuggalo
self-mortifyingattantapo
committed to the practice of mortifying themselvesattaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto?
hereIdha,
brahminbrāhmaṇa,
a certainekacco
individualpuggalo
nakedacelako
ishoti
ignoring conventionsmuttācāro
licking their handshatthāpalekhano
not coming when callednaehibhaddantiko
not waiting when callednatiṭṭhabhaddantiko,
food broughtnābhihaṭaṁ
notna
food prepared on their behalfuddissakataṁ
notna
an invitation for a mealnimantanaṁ
they consent tosādiyati.
theySo
notna
from a potkumbhimukhā
receivepaṭiggaṇhāti,
notna
from a bowlkaḷopimukhā
receivepaṭiggaṇhāti,
notna
from someone who keeps sheepeḷakamantaraṁ,
notna
from someone with a weapondaṇḍamantaraṁ,
notna
from someone with a shovelmusalamantaraṁ,
notna
of twodvinnaṁ
eatingbhuñjamānānaṁ,
notna
of one pregnantgabbhiniyā,
notna
of one breastfeedingpāyamānāya,
notna
of one living with a manpurisantaragatāya,
notna
where in dirty placessaṅkittīsu,
notna
whereyattha
a houndsā
waitingupaṭṭhito
ishoti,
notna
whereyattha
fliesmakkhikā
buzzing aroundsaṇḍasaṇḍacārinī,
notna
fishmacchaṁ
notna
meatmaṁsaṁ,
notna
beersuraṁ
notna
winemerayaṁ
notna
fermented gruelthusodakaṁ
they drinkpivati.
theySo
going to one houseekāgāriko
orvā
arehoti
taking one mouthfulekālopiko,
going to two housesdvāgāriko
orvā
arehoti
taking two mouthfulsdvālopiko
……pe…
going to seven housessattāgāriko
orvā
arehoti
taking seven mouthfulssattālopiko;
with one saucerekissāpi
of almsdattiyā
they feedyāpeti,
with two saucersdvīhipi
of almsdattīhi
they feedyāpeti
……pe…
with seven saucerssattahipi
of almsdattīhi
they feedyāpeti;
even once a dayekāhikampi
foodāhāraṁ
eatsāhāreti,
even once every second daydvīhikampi
foodāhāraṁ
eatsāhāreti
pe…pe…
even once a weeksattāhikampi
foodāhāraṁ
eats—thusāhāreti—iti
of such kindevarūpaṁ
fortnightlyaddhamāsikaṁ
committed to the practice of eating food at set intervalspariyāyabhattabhojanānuyogamanuyutto
livesviharati.
heSo
eating herbssākabhakkho
orvā
ishoti,
eating milletsāmākabhakkho
orvā
ishoti,
eating wild ricenīvārabhakkho
orvā
ishoti,
eating poor ricedaddulabhakkho
orvā
ishoti,
eating water lettucehaṭabhakkho
orvā
ishoti,
eating rice brankaṇabhakkho
orvā
ishoti,
eating scumācāmabhakkho
orvā
ishoti,
eating sesame flourpiññākabhakkho
orvā
ishoti,
eating grasstiṇabhakkho
orvā
ishoti,
eating cow dunggomayabhakkho
orvā
ishoti,
eating forest roots and fruitsvanamūlaphalāhāro
survivesyāpeti
eating fallen fruitpavattaphalabhojī.
heSo
even robes of sunn hempsāṇānipi
wearsdhāreti,
even robes of mixed hempmasāṇānipi
wearsdhāreti,
even robes of corpse-wrapping clothchavadussānipi
wearsdhāreti,
even ragspaṁsukūlānipi
wearsdhāreti,
even robes of lodh tree barktirīṭānipi
wearsdhāreti,
even antelope hideajinampi
wearsdhāreti,
even antelope hide stripsajinakkhipampi
wearsdhāreti,
even robes of kusa grasskusacīrampi
wearsdhāreti,
even robes of barkvākacīrampi
wearsdhāreti,
even robes of wood-chipsphalakacīrampi
wearsdhāreti,
even robes of human hairkesakambalampi
wearsdhāreti,
even robes of horse-tail hairvāḷakambalampi
wearsdhāreti,
even robes of owls’ wingsulūkapakkhampi
wearsdhāreti;
even a hair-and-beard pluckerkesamassulocakopi
ishoti
committed to the practice of plucking hair and beardkesamassulocanānuyogamanuyutto,
even a standerubbhaṭṭhakopi
ishoti
turning down seatsāsanapaṭikkhitto,
even a squatterukkuṭikopi
ishoti
committed to the endeavor of squattingukkuṭikappadhānamanuyutto,
even a thorn-mat lie-erkaṇṭakāpassayikopi
ishoti
on a mat of thornskaṇṭakāpassaye
a bedseyyaṁ
makeskappeti;
even three times a day including at dusksāyatatiyakampi
committed to the practice of ritual bathingudakorohanānuyogamanuyutto
livesviharati—
thusiti
of such kindevarūpaṁ
of various kindsanekavihitaṁ
of the bodykāyassa
committed to the practice of mortifying and tormentingātāpanaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto
livesviharati.
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