With Ghoṭamukha · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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thusEvaṁ
by meme
heardsutaṁ—
oneekaṁ
timesamayaṁ
Venerableāyasmā
Udenaudeno
near Varanasibārāṇasiyaṁ
was stayingviharati
in the Khemiya Mango Grovekhemiyambavane.
by thatTena
indeedkho
thenpana
at the timesamayena
Ghoṭamukhaghoṭamukho
brahminbrāhmaṇo
to Varanasibārāṇasiṁ
arrivedanuppatto
washoti
on somekenacideva
businesskaraṇīyena.
thenAtha
indeedkho
Ghoṭamukhaghoṭamukho
brahminbrāhmaṇo
for a walkjaṅghāvihāraṁ
walking alonganucaṅkamamāno
wandering alonganuvicaramāno
whereyena
to the Khemiya Mango Grovekhemiyambavanaṁ
he approached ittenupasaṅkami.
by thatTena
indeedkho
thenpana
at the timesamayena
venerableāyasmā
Udenaudeno
in the open airabbhokāse
was walking mindfullycaṅkamati.
thenAtha
indeedkho
Ghoṭamukhaghoṭamukho
brahminbrāhmaṇo
approached Venerable Udenayenāyasmā
Udenaudeno
he approached himtenupasaṅkami;
having approachedupasaṅkamitvā
with venerableāyasmatā
Udenaudenena
withsaddhiṁ
exchanged greetingssammodi.
courteousSammodanīyaṁ
conversationkathaṁ
memorablesāraṇīyaṁ
having exchangedvītisāretvā
Venerableāyasmantaṁ
Udenaudenaṁ
walkingcaṅkamantaṁ
walking alonganucaṅkamamāno
he said thisevamāha:
sir“ambho
asceticsamaṇa,
there is not‘natthi
principleddhammiko
renunciate lifeparibbajo’—
thusevaṁ
for meme
hereettha
it ishoti.
but that tooTañca
indeedkho
of honorable onesbhavantarūpānaṁ
orvā
from not seeingadassanā,
whichyo
orvā
and herepanettha
teachingdhammo”ti.
thusEvaṁ
when saidvutte,
venerableāyasmā
Udenaudeno
from the walking pathcaṅkamā
having descendedorohitvā
dwellingvihāraṁ
having enteredpavisitvā
spread outpaññatte
on the seatāsane
sat downnisīdi.
Ghoṭamukha tooGhoṭamukhopi
indeedkho
brahminbrāhmaṇo
from the walking pathcaṅkamā
having descendedorohitvā
dwellingvihāraṁ
having enteredpavisitvā
to one sideekamantaṁ
stoodaṭṭhāsi.
to one sideEkamantaṁ
standingṭhitaṁ
indeedkho
Ghoṭamukhaghoṭamukhaṁ
brahminbrāhmaṇaṁ
venerableāyasmā
Udenaudeno
said thisetadavoca:
“there are“saṁvijjanti
indeed,kho,
brahmin,brāhmaṇa,
seats.āsanāni.
IfSace
you wishākaṅkhasi,
sit”nisīdā”ti.
“This very one“Etadeva
indeedkho
thenpana
wemayaṁ
of masterbhoto
Udenaudenassa
awaitingāgamayamānā
we sitnisīdāma.
For howKathañhi
indeednāma
one like memādiso
firstpubbe
uninvitedanimantito
on the seatāsane
should sitnisīditabbaṁ
should think”maññeyyā”ti?
thenAtha
indeedkho
Ghoṭamukhaghoṭamukho
brahminbrāhmaṇo
a certainaññataraṁ
lownīcaṁ
seatāsanaṁ
having takengahetvā
to one sideekamantaṁ
sat downnisīdi.
to one sideEkamantaṁ
seatednisinno
indeedkho
Ghoṭamukhaghoṭamukho
brahminbrāhmaṇo
venerableāyasmantaṁ
Udenaudenaṁ
said thisetadavoca:
sir“ambho
asceticsamaṇa,
there is not‘natthi
principleddhammiko
renunciate lifeparibbajo’—
thusevaṁ
to meme
hereettha
it ishoti.
and thatTañca
indeedkho
worthy ones such as yourselfbhavantarūpānaṁ
orvā
from not seeingadassanā,
whichyo
orvā
but herepanettha
teachingdhammo”ti.
if“Sace
indeedkho
thenpana
to meme
youtvaṁ,
brahminbrāhmaṇa,
what should be grantedanuññeyyaṁ
you should grantanujāneyyāsi,
and what should be rejectedpaṭikkositabbañca
you should rejectpaṭikkoseyyāsi;
of whichyassa
andca
thenpana
myme
spokenbhāsitassa
meaningatthaṁ
notna
you should understandjāneyyāsi,
from me alonemamaṁyeva
theretattha
furtheruttari
you should askpaṭipuccheyyāsi:
this‘idaṁ,
sirbho
Udenaudena,
whykathaṁ,
of thisimassa
what is the meaningkvattho’ti?
thusEvaṁ
having donekatvā
there may besiyā
for usno
hereettha
conversationkathāsallāpo”ti.
approvable“Anuññeyyaṁ indeed Ikhvāhaṁ of the honorablebhoto Udena'sudenassa I will approveanujānissāmi, and the rejectablepaṭikkositabbañca I will rejectpaṭikkosissāmi; of whichyassa andca but Ipanāhaṁ of the honorablebhoto Udena'sudenassa of the statementbhāsitassa meaningatthaṁ notna I will knowjānissāmi, the honorable one himselfbhavantaṁyeva theretattha Udenaudenaṁ furtheruttari I will ask in returnpaṭipucchissāmi: this‘idaṁ, sirbho Udenaudena, howkathaṁ, of thisimassa what is the meaningkvattho’ti? thusEvaṁ having donekatvā let there behotu for usno hereettha conversational exchangekathāsallāpo”ti.
four“Cattārome,
brahminbrāhmaṇa,
individualspuggalā
beingsanto
foundsaṁvijjamānā
in the worldlokasmiṁ.
whichKatame
fourcattāro?
hereIdha,
brahminbrāhmaṇa,
oneekacco
individualpuggalo
self-mortifyingattantapo
ishoti
committed to the practice of mortifying themselvesattaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto.
hereIdha
butpana,
brahminbrāhmaṇa,
oneekacco
individualpuggalo
other-mortifyingparantapo
ishoti
committed to the practice of mortifying othersparaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto.
hereIdha
butpana,
brahminbrāhmaṇa,
oneekacco
individualpuggalo
self-mortifyingattantapo
andca
ishoti
committed to the practice of mortifying themselvesattaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto
other-mortifyingparantapo
andca
committed to the practice of mortifying othersparaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto.
hereIdha
butpana,
brahminbrāhmaṇa,
oneekacco
individualpuggalo
not self-mortifyingnevattantapo
ishoti
not committed to the practice of mortifying themselvesnāttaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto,
notna
other-mortifyingparantapo
notna
committed to the practice of mortifying othersparaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto.
heSo
not self-mortifyinganattantapo
not other-mortifyingaparantapo
in this very lifediṭṭheva
dhammadhamme
without wishesnicchāto
quenchednibbuto
cooledsītībhūto
experiencing blisssukhappaṭisaṁvedī
with self become divinebrahmabhūtena
with selfattanā
livesviharati.
of theseImesaṁ,
brahminbrāhmaṇa,
fourcatunnaṁ
individualspuggalānaṁ
whichkatamo
to youte
individualpuggalo
mindcittaṁ
pleasesārādhetī”ti?
that which“Yvāyaṁ,
worthybho
Udenaudena,
individualpuggalo
self-mortifyingattantapo
committed to the practice of mortifying themselvesattaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto
thisayaṁ
myme
individualpuggalo
mindcittaṁ
does not pleasenārādheti;
that whichyopāyaṁ,
worthybho
Udenaudena,
individualpuggalo
other-mortifyingparantapo
committed to the practice of mortifying othersparaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto
this tooayampi
myme
individualpuggalo
mindcittaṁ
does not pleasenārādheti;
who is thisyopāyaṁ,
sirbho
Udenaudena,
individualpuggalo
self-tormentingattantapo
andca
devoted to self-mortificationattaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto
tormenting othersparantapo
andca
devoted to mortifying othersparaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto
this one tooayampi
myme
individualpuggalo
mindcittaṁ
does not satisfynārādheti;
whoyo
andca
indeedkho
thisayaṁ,
sirbho
Udenaudena,
individualpuggalo
neither self-tormentingnevattantapo
not devoted to self-mortificationnāttaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto
notna
tormenting othersparantapo
notna
devoted to mortifying othersparaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto
heso
not self-tormentinganattantapo
not tormenting othersaparantapo
in this very lifediṭṭheva
in the dhammadhamme
hungerlessnicchāto
quenchednibbuto
cooledsītībhūto
experiencing happinesssukhappaṭisaṁvedī
with brahma-like selfbrahmabhūtena
with selfattanā
dwellsviharati.
this very oneAyameva
myme
individualpuggalo
mindcittaṁ
satisfiesārādhetī”ti.
why“Kasmā
thenpana
to youte,
brahminbrāhmaṇa,
theseime
threetayo
individualspuggalā
the mindcittaṁ
they do not pleasenārādhentī”ti?
this one“Yvāyaṁ,
worthybho
Udenaudena,
individualpuggalo
self-mortifyingattantapo
devoted to the practice of self-mortificationattaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto
heso
himselfattānaṁ
desiring happinesssukhakāmaṁ
recoiling from paindukkhapaṭikkūlaṁ
tormentsātāpeti
mortifiesparitāpeti;
by thisiminā
meme
thisayaṁ
individualpuggalo
the mindcittaṁ
does not pleasenārādheti.
this oneYopāyaṁ,
worthybho
Udenaudena,
individualpuggalo
other-mortifyingparantapo
devoted to the practice of other-mortificationparaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto
heso
anotherparaṁ
desiring happinesssukhakāmaṁ
recoiling from paindukkhapaṭikkūlaṁ
tormentsātāpeti
mortifiesparitāpeti;
by thisiminā
meme
thisayaṁ
individualpuggalo
the mindcittaṁ
does not pleasenārādheti.
this oneYopāyaṁ,
worthybho
Udenaudena,
individualpuggalo
self-mortifyingattantapo
andca
devoted to the practice of self-mortificationattaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto
other-mortifyingparantapo
andca
devoted to the practice of other-mortificationparaparitāpanānuyogamanuyutto
heso
himselfattānañca
othersparañca
desiring happinesssukhakāmaṁ
recoiling from paindukkhapaṭikkūlaṁ
tormentsātāpeti
mortifiesparitāpeti;
by thisiminā
meme
thisayaṁ
individualpuggalo
the mindcittaṁ
does not pleasenārādheti.
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