With Subha · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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Taṁ
kiṁ
maññasi,
māṇava,
yaṁ
vā
tiṇakaṭṭhupādānaṁ
paṭicca
aggiṁ
jāleyya
yaṁ
vā
nissaṭṭhatiṇakaṭṭhupādānaṁ
aggiṁ
jāleyya,
katamo
nu
khvāssa
aggi
accimā
ceva
vaṇṇavā
ca
pabhassaro
cā”ti?
“Sace
taṁ,
bho
gotama,
ṭhānaṁ
nissaṭṭhatiṇakaṭṭhupādānaṁ
aggiṁ
jāletuṁ,
svāssa
aggi
accimā
ceva
vaṇṇavā
ca
pabhassaro
cā”ti.
“Aṭṭhānaṁ
kho
etaṁ,
māṇava,
anavakāso
yaṁ
nissaṭṭhatiṇakaṭṭhupādānaṁ
aggiṁ
jāleyya
aññatra
iddhimatā.
Seyyathāpi,
māṇava,
tiṇakaṭṭhupādānaṁ
paṭicca
aggi
jalati
tathūpamāhaṁ,
māṇava,
imaṁ
pītiṁ
vadāmi
yāyaṁ
pīti
pañca
kāmaguṇe
paṭicca.
Seyyathāpi,
māṇava,
nissaṭṭhatiṇakaṭṭhupādāno
aggi
jalati
tathūpamāhaṁ,
māṇava,
imaṁ
pītiṁ
vadāmi
yāyaṁ
pīti
aññatreva
kāmehi
aññatra
akusalehi
dhammehi.
Katamā
ca,
māṇava,
pīti
aññatreva
kāmehi
aññatra
akusalehi
dhammehi?
Idha,
māṇava,
bhikkhu
vivicceva
kāmehi
…pe…
paṭhamaṁ
jhānaṁ
upasampajja
viharati.
Ayampi
kho,
māṇava,
pīti
aññatreva
kāmehi
aññatra
akusalehi
dhammehi.
Puna
caparaṁ,
māṇava,
bhikkhu
vitakkavicārānaṁ
vūpasamā
…
dutiyaṁ
jhānaṁ
upasampajja
viharati.
Ayampi
kho,
māṇava,
pīti
aññatreva
kāmehi
aññatra
akusalehi
dhammehi.
Ye
te,
māṇava,
brāhmaṇā
pañca
dhamme
paññapenti
puññassa
kiriyāya
kusalassa
ārādhanāya,
katamettha
brāhmaṇā
dhammaṁ
mahapphalataraṁ
paññapenti
puññassa
kiriyāya
kusalassa
ārādhanāyā”ti?
“Yeme,
bho
gotama,
brāhmaṇā
pañca
dhamme
paññapenti
puññassa
kiriyāya
kusalassa
ārādhanāya,
cāgamettha
brāhmaṇā
dhammaṁ
mahapphalataraṁ
paññapenti
puññassa
kiriyāya
kusalassa
ārādhanāyā”ti.
“Taṁ
kiṁ
maññasi,
māṇava,
idha
aññatarassa
brāhmaṇassa
mahāyañño
paccupaṭṭhito
assa.
Atha
dve
brāhmaṇā
āgaccheyyuṁ:
‘itthannāmassa
brāhmaṇassa
mahāyaññaṁ
anubhavissāmā’ti.
Tatrekassa
brāhmaṇassa
evamassa:
‘aho
vata
ahameva
labheyyaṁ
bhattagge
aggāsanaṁ
aggodakaṁ
aggapiṇḍaṁ,
na
añño
brāhmaṇo
labheyya
bhattagge
aggāsanaṁ
aggodakaṁ
aggapiṇḍan’ti.
Ṭhānaṁ
kho
panetaṁ,
māṇava,
vijjati
yaṁ
añño
brāhmaṇo
labheyya
bhattagge
aggāsanaṁ
aggodakaṁ
aggapiṇḍaṁ,
na
so
brāhmaṇo
labheyya
bhattagge
aggāsanaṁ
aggodakaṁ
aggapiṇḍaṁ.
‘Añño
brāhmaṇo
labhati
bhattagge
aggāsanaṁ
aggodakaṁ
aggapiṇḍaṁ,
nāhaṁ
labhāmi
bhattagge
aggāsanaṁ
aggodakaṁ
aggapiṇḍan’ti—
iti
so
kupito
hoti
anattamano.
Imassa
pana,
māṇava,
brāhmaṇā
kiṁ
vipākaṁ
paññapentī”ti?
“Na
khvettha,
bho
gotama,
brāhmaṇā
evaṁ
dānaṁ
denti:
‘iminā
paro
kupito
hotu
anattamano’ti.
Atha
khvettha
brāhmaṇā
anukampājātikaṁyeva
dānaṁ
dentī”ti.
“Evaṁ
sante
kho,
māṇava,
brāhmaṇānaṁ
idaṁ
chaṭṭhaṁ
puññakiriyavatthu
hoti—
yadidaṁ
anukampājātikan”ti.
“Evaṁ
sante,
bho
gotama,
brāhmaṇānaṁ
idaṁ
chaṭṭhaṁ
puññakiriyavatthu
hoti—
yadidaṁ
anukampājātikan”ti.
“Ye
te,
māṇava,
brāhmaṇā
pañca
dhamme
paññapenti
puññassa
kiriyāya
kusalassa
ārādhanāya,
ime
tvaṁ
pañca
dhamme
kattha
bahulaṁ
samanupassasi—
gahaṭṭhesu
vā
pabbajitesu
vā”ti?
“Yeme,
bho
gotama,
brāhmaṇā
pañca
dhamme
paññapenti
puññassa
kiriyāya
kusalassa
ārādhanāya,
imāhaṁ
pañca
dhamme
pabbajitesu
bahulaṁ
samanupassāmi
appaṁ
gahaṭṭhesu.
Gahaṭṭho
hi,
bho
gotama,
mahaṭṭho
mahākicco
mahādhikaraṇo
mahāsamārambho,
na
satataṁ
samitaṁ
saccavādī
hoti;
pabbajito
kho
pana,
bho
gotama,
appaṭṭho
appakicco
appādhikaraṇo
appasamārambho,
satataṁ
samitaṁ
saccavādī
hoti.
Gahaṭṭho
hi,
bho
gotama,
mahaṭṭho
mahākicco
mahādhikaraṇo
mahāsamārambho
na
satataṁ
samitaṁ
tapassī
hoti
…
brahmacārī
hoti
…
sajjhāyabahulo
hoti
…
cāgabahulo
hoti;
pabbajito
kho
pana,
bho
gotama,
appaṭṭho
appakicco
appādhikaraṇo
appasamārambho
satataṁ
samitaṁ
tapassī
hoti
…
brahmacārī
hoti
…
sajjhāyabahulo
hoti
…
cāgabahulo
hoti.
Yeme,
bho
gotama,
brāhmaṇā
pañca
dhamme
paññapenti
puññassa
kiriyāya
kusalassa
ārādhanāya,
imāhaṁ
pañca
dhamme
pabbajitesu
bahulaṁ
samanupassāmi
appaṁ
gahaṭṭhesū”ti.
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