Cūḷasakuludāyisutta

Majjhima Nikāya 79

Cūḷasakuludāyisutta

The Shorter Discourse With Sakuludāyī · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral

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neverthelessApi andca, Udāyīudāyi, let standtiṭṭhatu the first beginningpubbanto, let standtiṭṭhatu the final endaparanto.
the DhammaDhammaṁ to youte I shall teachdesessāmi—
when this existsimasmiṁ existingsati thisidaṁ comes to behoti, due to the arising of thisimassuppādā thisidaṁ arisesuppajjati;
when this doesn’t existimasmiṁ not existingasati thatidaṁ notna ishoti, of thisimassa due to the cessationnirodhā thatidaṁ ceasesnirujjhatī”ti.

I indeed“Ahañhi, sirbhante, as much asyāvatakampi by meme with thisiminā incarnationattabhāvena undergonepaccanubhūtaṁ that tootampi I cannotnappahomi with featuressākāraṁ with detailssauddesaṁ to recollectanussarituṁ,
howkuto then Ipanāhaṁ many kinds ofanekavihitaṁ past livespubbenivāsaṁ I shall recollectanussarissāmi, that isseyyathidaṁ—ekampi lifejātiṁ two toodvepi livesjātiyo ……pe… thusiti with featuressākāraṁ with detailssauddesaṁ many kinds ofanekavihitaṁ past livespubbenivāsaṁ I shall recollectanussarissāmi, likeseyyathāpi the Buddhabhagavā?
I indeedAhañhi, sirbhante, nowetarahi even a mud-goblinpaṁsupisācakampi notna I seepassāmi,
howkuto then Ipanāhaṁ with clairvoyancedibbena eyecakkhunā purifiedvisuddhena superhumanatikkantamānusakena sentient beingssatte I shall seepassissāmi passing awaycavamāne being rebornupapajjamāne inferiorhīne superiorpaṇīte beautifulsuvaṇṇe uglydubbaṇṇe in a good placesugate in a bad placeduggate according to deedsyathākammūpage sentient beingssatte I shall knowpajānissāmi, likeseyyathāpi the Buddhabhagavā?
whatYaṁ thenpana to memaṁ, sirbhante, the Buddhabhagavā said thusevamāha:
nevertheless‘api andca, Udāyīudāyi, let standtiṭṭhatu the first beginningpubbanto, let standtiṭṭhatu the final endaparanto;
the Dhammadhammaṁ to youte I shall teachdesessāmi—
when thisimasmiṁ existssati thisidaṁ comes to behoti, due to the arising of thisimassuppādā thisidaṁ arisesuppajjati;
when thisimasmiṁ doesn't existasati thisidaṁ notna comes to behoti, due to the cessation of thisimassa cessationnirodhā thisidaṁ ceasesnirujjhatī’ti that tootañca thenpana to meme even morebhiyyoso by the measuremattāya notna is clearpakkhāyati.

perhapsAppeva indeed Ināmāhaṁ, revered sirbhante, ownsake denominationācariyake of the Blessed Onebhagavato mindcittaṁ I might satisfyārādheyyaṁ of a questionpañhassa by answeringveyyākaraṇenā”ti.

even long“Dīghāpi indeedkho for youte thisesā, Udāyīudāyi, you could draw outphareyya:
since‘yasmā, sirbhante, than the splendorvaṇṇā otherañño splendorvaṇṇo fineruttaritaro orvā more excellentpaṇītataro orvā there is notnatthi thatso ultimateparamo splendorvaṇṇo’ti you sayvadesi, and thattañca splendorvaṇṇaṁ notna you describepaññapesi.
supposeSeyyathāpi, Udāyīudāyi, a manpuriso thusevaṁ would sayvadeyya:
I‘ahaṁ whoeveryā in thisimasmiṁ in the landjanapade the finest lady in the landjanapadakalyāṇī hertaṁ I wanticchāmi, hertaṁ I desirekāmemī’ti.
him theyTamenaṁ thusevaṁ would sayvadeyyuṁ:
my man‘ambho manpurisa, whomyaṁ youtvaṁ finest lady in the landjanapadakalyāṇiṁ you desireicchasi you lovekāmesi, you knowjānāsi thattaṁ finest lady in the land—an aristocratjanapadakalyāṇiṁ—khattiyī orvā a brahminbrāhmaṇī orvā a peasantvessī orvā a menialsuddī or?vā’ti?
thusIti askedpuṭṭho no‘no’ti he would sayvadeyya.
him theyTamenaṁ thusevaṁ would sayvadeyyuṁ:
my friend‘ambho manpurisa, whomyaṁ youtvaṁ finest lady in the landjanapadakalyāṇiṁ you desireicchasi you lovekāmesi, you knowjānāsi thattaṁ finest lady in the land—her namejanapadakalyāṇiṁ—evaṁnāmā her clanevaṅgottāti or?vāti ……pe… talldīghā orvā shortrassā orvā mediummajjhimā orvā blackkāḷī orvā brownsāmā orvā dingy-skinnedmaṅguracchavī or?vāti …… in such-and-suchamukasmiṁ villagegāme orvā townnigame orvā citynagare or?vā’ti?

thusIti askedpuṭṭho “No,”‘no’ti he would say.vadeyya.
him thusTamenaṁ soevaṁ they would say:vadeyyuṁ:
‘my man,‘ambho man,purisa, whoyaṁ youtvaṁ notna knowjānāsi norna see,passasi, thattaṁ youtvaṁ desireicchasi want?’kāmesī’ti?
ThusIti askedpuṭṭho ‘Yes,’‘āmā’ti he would say.vadeyya.
thatTaṁ whatkiṁ do you think,maññasi, Udāyī—udāyi—
isn't itnanu soevaṁ being,sante, thattassa man’spurisassa without demonstrable basisappāṭihīrakataṁ statementbhāsitaṁ turns out?”sampajjatī”ti?
“Clearly“Addhā indeed,kho, sir,bhante, soevaṁ being,sante thattassa man’spurisassa without demonstrable basisappāṭihīrakataṁ statementbhāsitaṁ turns out.”sampajjatī”ti.
“In the same way“Evameva indeedkho you,tvaṁ, Udāyī,udāyi, ‘since,‘yasmā, sir,bhante, splendorvaṇṇā anotherañño splendorvaṇṇo fineruttaritaro orvā more excellentpaṇītataro orvā there is notnatthi thatso ultimateparamo splendor,’vaṇṇo’ti you say,vadesi, but thattañca splendorvaṇṇaṁ notna you describe.”paññapesī”ti.

just as“Seyyathāpi, worthy sirbhante, a gemmaṇi berylveḷuriyo naturally lustroussubho of good birthjātimā eight-facetedaṭṭhaṁso well-workedsuparikammakato on a cream rugpaṇḍukambale placednikkhitto would shinebhāsate andca would glowtapate andca would dazzlevirocati andca, suchevaṁ splendorvaṇṇo the selfattā ishoti free of diseasearogo afterparaṁ deathmaraṇā”ti.

that“Taṁ whatkiṁ you thinkmaññasi, Udāyīudāyi,
whichyo orvā gemmaṇi berylveḷuriyo beautifulsubho genuinejātimā eight-facetedaṭṭhaṁso well-workedsuparikammakato on a yellow blanketpaṇḍukambale placednikkhitto shinesbhāsate andca glowstapate andca gleamsvirocati andca, whichyo orvā in the dark of nightrattandhakāratimisāya a wormkimi firefly—of thesekhajjopanako—imesaṁ of bothubhinnaṁ of splendorsvaṇṇānaṁ whichkatamo splendorvaṇṇo finerabhikkantataro andca superiorpaṇītataro and”?'cā”ti?
that which“Yvāyaṁ, sirbhante, in the dark of nightrattandhakāratimisāya a wormkimi firefly—thiskhajjopanako—ayaṁ of theseimesaṁ of bothubhinnaṁ of splendorsvaṇṇānaṁ finerabhikkantataro andca superiorpaṇītataro and”'cā”ti.

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